p.s. The weekend, finally. Not a whole lot new here. I don't know about you, but, Salvador Dali having besmirched his name with so much lazy, money grubbing crap art in the last decades of his life, I'm kind of wowed to see these early gorgeous, weird, still very inspired works from him. See what you think. Oh, I saw and really liked Linklater's 'A Scanner Darkly.' Such a pleasure to hear/see Dick's crazily great writing and sensibility so loyally and interestingly translated onto film at long last. Tonight one of my fave artists and LA pals Amy Sarkisian has a gallery show opening here, so that's where Yury and I will be. Otherwise, time will tell. I hope all of your weekends pan out accordingly. ** Jheorgge, Awesome and many thanks re. the impending Day. Yeah, you've got the address right. Nice to see others here are excited too. Very cool you write for Plan B. Excellent stuff. What's Everett True like as a real dude? ** David c., Oh good, I'll go check your refreshed blog. I'm not sure what this London Open House is, although it doesn't take a scientist to guess, and exploring architecture sounds quite pleasant. And thanks for the Patti link. Nice. ** Katsim, So what is myspace living doing to our minds? I'd be curious to read a take on myspace that wasn't written by some clueless, paranoid adult who's transparently bitter that he/she didn't have a place like that to go adventuring when they were teens. All this media fanning of non-existent myspace-related flames is so weird and predictable. ** Antonio, Regardless of how it happened, or whether you think you're just a lucky stiff, it's seriously great that you'll get to spend time at Berkeley. And, yeah, praying with all my might, I hope I'll be in LA by fall 2007 -- if not, I'll probably be hanging from the nearest tree -- and that we can kidnap each other, although I think you need to be kidnapped to LA a lot more than the other way around. Speaking of lucky stiffs, Rudolf Nureyev's really cock was kind of huge, huh? Not that I got anywhere near it. He and it are buried here in Paris. ** Mizu, I don't know what '13 Tzameti' is, or I'm spacing. But I'll hunt the trailer down this morning. Thanks. ** Joe mills, Well, everbody who thinks they know everything says/thinks Jake Glyllenhaal is gay, so maybe, if he is, the other two got tagged by proxy. Bill Drummond, right? Yeah, I was going to say 'Garbage is Scottish?!' but then I remembered Shirley Manson is. I interviewed Garbage for Spin once. They were really nice folk. I felt for SM when she got so deeply bamboozled by the JT shit. But it was evidence of her niceness. Cigarettes: I hover around a pack and a half a day. Well, actually, less than that ever since Yury demanded I smoke in the stairwell. I've never gotten up to two packs a day other than on rare days of heavy stress or intense writing. What does Jimmy Somerville do these days? I haven't heard a thing about him in years. You love 'Bladerunner' too? As crap as Rutger Hauer can be, he'll always be immortal to me for that scene on the roof. Amazing film, so incredibly influential. Jax shared a bed with Edwyn Collins?! ** David ehrenstein, When does 'Shortbus' open in the US? Well, now you've got me very interested to see it, obviously. I'm wishing the best for it in theory, both because JCM is a cool guy, and because the possible in-the-works Carter Smith feature I wrote, 'Warm,' has a bunch of hardcore porn in it too, and I imagine 'Warm's chances to get financed, etc. will depend somewhat on how JCM's film does, so fingers crossed and gulp. ** 5stringaphasia, Pearl Jam: Basic respect for their politics and integrity, no interest in their music. Tool: Don't like them. Don't get why people do. Seem really average to me. Saw them live, thought they were tedious. But I'm interested in the possibility of being convinced otherwise. ** Paul curran, Thanks a lot for the kind words, man. ** Tosh, Okay, I'm moving Billy MacKenzie Day to the top of my to-do list, and I'll see if the goods to make such a thing possible are out there. Probably, right? ** Math tinder, That is a good Bible signing story, thanks. Maybe if I ever cross paths with the big man, I'll say hello and not immediately duck. ** Larkspur, You saw the Lynch? Oh, man. I just don't see how it's possible that it could be less than amazing if possibly flawed at worst. When's the last time he made a film that was less than absolutely fascinating, you know? Fingers very crossed for that Sight & Sound interview/cover. So if you were in Venice, did you see the Resnais, the Robbe-Grillet? Anything else there strike you as great or disappointingly shit? ** Robert-nyc, Internet at home, allright! ** Akechikogorou, Well, if you're still around enough to read this, thanks, and if you feel like it, hit me with an email if you want to meet up here, etc.? You're a great asset and pleasure to have here, so I and everyone else I'm sure will be looking forward to your return. ** Thomas, Oh gosh, that's awesome. I wasn't fishing for gifts, seriously. Lou Barlow Day: Yeah, that could be good. I'm a little in the camp that's lost interest in his work of the last years as it's gone a bit soppy, though I'm a huge fan of his up-until-'Bakesale' Sebadoh work and his up-until- about-the-same -period Sentridoh stuff. But maybe a Day tracing the rise and arguable fall would be interesting. Yeah, I'll list the idea. 'Sebadoh III' is one of my very, very favorite all time albums. ** Jack, Hey! Long time no see. Awesome. Yeah, you can call me Denny. That's what three-quarters of my siblings call me. Let's see ... I never bought 'Reverberation.' I was scared by the idea of it. I only know the single. But I should get it, yeah, especially with your enthusiasm. I can probably get it for like a dollar at this point. Yeah, I really love Pavement. I mentioned them here just the other day re. 'Cherry Area.' If they're not mentioned that much it's likely just because the blog hasn't been so musically oriented lately for some reason. But Pavement are still one of my all time favorite bands, and I hugely love Malkmus's work, even the most recent one, though it's true that it hasn't had as many plays here as the others. My favorite is 'Pig Lib.' I love the way he played off early 70s British blues/psych, especially The Groundhogs. Last time I saw him, he and I had a great gab fest about The Groundhogs, big mutual faves. Maybe I should do a Malkmus Day to make up for any possible neglect. Bruce is already back in LA, but I'll be heading there ere long, and I'll pass along your delayed hello. You know Bruce? Interesting. Great to see you. ** Perspects, I hear you about Heaven 17. I still have a fondness for the 'Crushed by the Wheels of Industry' period, that album, whatever it's called, though it was drooping a little by then, yeah. Eric Gaffney, amazing. He's also in my most fuckable rock stars list. Do you know what he's up to? I ask and ask people, even people who seem to know him a little, and nobody has much news. I miss him. ** Jose, Yeah, I'm keeping up on the Montreal school shooting and sorting through the predictable media fingerpointing at games/music/the net/blah blah. I'm curious to know the 'real' story once the smoke clears. But that incident and the bizarro, wildly imaginative news coverage of Anna Nicole Smith's son's death are keeping me busy. ** Gregoryedwin, Now that's great news. Not that there was any doubt you'd ace that stuff. But still, your relief is tenable. Now you can really dig into your writing? I mean after the partying down. ** Creative massacre, I don't know Children of Bodom. The rest I do, at least a smidgen. Thanks. So you're a Black Metal fan then? Everybody's so complex here. We fucking rule, no? ** Dynomoose, Goodness, obviously don't take chances with your kid's illness. Like others said, get her to doctor, yeah? That must be so scary. Now you've got me/us concerned, so do let us know how the little person and you are doing, okay? ** The End. Breathe as easy as humanly possible this weekend, and I'll see you on Monday.

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I missed my chance to meet Everett (or 'Jerry') True when he came up to Scotland, so my correspondence with him was limited to his editorial emails which ran 'thanks' '150 words' and 'by Friday please'. So he's either very busy (likely) or rude (likely) or both (likeliest). He has new books on Nirvana and Sonic Youth coming out. I guess from his comments on the Plan B forum he seems nice tho, if a little tetchy.
'A Scanner Darkly'...I liked it definitely, tho I came out feeling very itchy, sweaty and uncomfortable. I think I was coming down at the time, I dunno...Gonna see Black Dahlia today, let you know what I think.
Psyched about BM day, should be with you soon dude, thanx.
wow, for sure, i need the weekend to think about Dali and de Lautreamont. the Haring/Burroughs thing was infinitely more accessible to me... i am looking forward to thinking hard.
in the meantime, here's some minor stuff:
__hey Tosh, you said early Heaven 17 blew you away. do you remember how Johnny Marr said Heaven 17 [and Ziggy Stardust] as his most-hated records in the Meat Is Murder tour programme?
__for the Morrissey fans! someone discovered the specific photo source for the Hatful of Hollow cover. i wasn't aware of it previously... a gorgeous picture of a newspaper [and a photo in said newspaper] at the link.
__for the Jobriath fans! i was really suprised that when couldn't find pictures of the Pidgeon LP online after trying for a few hours? maybe i was just looking in the wrong places? anyway, i did some snaps. the record looks like this [all links direct straight to images, not to web pages, so should be no compatability woes]:
Pidgeon cover art
gatefold overview
gatefold left
gatefold left detail
gatefold right
reverse sleeve art
reverse sleeve art detail
__jheorgge, yeah of course i promise i will read The Anarcy of the Imagination. i will save it up... that will be a good project, saving the experience...
__really grainy, dubbed-multiple-times on vhs, Joe Dallesandro porn. who wants? it's very brief; 1.5mg avi. the esteemed Bernard Welt, of this blog and elsewhere, sent it to me. i'm happy to forward it on to anybody, or put it on my blog if lots of people are interested. just let me know if you wanna see it.
__smoking: i never smoked tobacco 'til i came to nyc and faced an apparent marijuana shortage [i've lived here before without apparent supply problems... wtf is up now?] anyway i now smoke about 10 American Spirits a day... Dennis i forget what brand you smoke?
xoxo, math+
*hmm... Pidgeon gatefold right
i bought a signed dali print 20 yrs ago. turns out to be pretty worthless. apparently he signed thousands of blank sheets of paper, and the prints were executed by assistants. i guess the market was flooded. there were lawsuits. the old coot loved money.
dali was like the first "weird" art i discovered in my early teens, so i still have a soft spot for him.
the print is on my kitchen wall.
oh well.
aw!!!! my boyfriend's now the proud uncle (and i'm the proud auntie) of a little 7lb baby girl, so we're both chuffed to bits!! we haven't met her yet cos her parents are shattered but we can't wait!
Congrats, athiest! Little baby girls need big gay uncles.
Fabulous Dali/Laureamont day, Dennis. Easy to see stirrings of Dali's later painting style in these drawings. Forgot that Lautreamont (the Dennis Cooper of his day) was killed during the Franco-Prussian war. Was he a member of the Paris Commune? I wouldn't be at all surprised. If so, he has a grave somewhere in Paris. If not there's no marked grave. The Communards (mercilessly slaughtered in one the great mass genocides in history) are buried on a secret site the Straubs discovered and utilized for their Mallarme film Every Revolution is a Throw of the Dice.
Dali was gay, but went screaming into the closet when his boyfriend, Federico Garcia Lorca, was killed by Franco's thugs. So he married a truly evil fag-hag who became the driving force of his now base ambitions. He was a very skilled draughtsman, but a very disappointing human being.
jheorgge - Plan B? I saw that magazine for the first time the other day. I'll make sure to pick it up if I see it in Heathrow before I fly! Really looking forward to your black metal day.
Dennis - well.. lots of interesting thoughts from a psychologist who was saying (in brief) that because of everything now being instant people are being starved of the time we need to think and reflect on feelings and thoughts. one part I liked was something like this 'for some people it has gone from "I have a feeling, I want to call a friend" to "I need to feel, I have to call a friend"' It seemed to make sense when I read it, and that is only my attempt at quoting from memory. I'm sure France must have New Scientist somewhere.. go buy it if you can!
and... Tool.. I like their riffs for a start, great fun to play... and I love Maynards voice. But their music really moves me. I was in a particularly hard time of my life and sat in the uni library studying with Lateralus on, listening more to the music than studying suddenly everything started to lift. It was a definite turning point for me. On their latest album the song 10,000 days is a favourite. Basically written about his mother being paralysed for what amounted to about that length of time before her death. Parts of the song I find amazing... plus I like the religious references / subtext. I know a lot of people who couldn't care less about them as a band though so I get your um.. lack of enthusiasm about them!
That should be -- if not he has a grave somewhere in Paris.
I met Jake at the LAFCA awards. If he's not gay, half a six-pack would certainly do it. But I suspect he may have "the urge to merge with a splurge" (as Cole Porter would say) anyway.
All Datalounge is convinced that he's gay and is sussing out who he might be doing The Beast with One Back with.
But then those queens think Clooney's gay too.
Having stared longingly into Clooney's eyes for a good minute, I'm holding out for his at least being bi.
If not a six-pack would definitely do it.
I'm interviewing John on Monday. Shortbus is opening in New York on October 4th and in L.A. on October 6th. As it's unrrated it won't play a whole mess of theaters.
Jheorgge, hey. Awesome about the Black Metal Day. Can’t wait for some more insights and ways in… It’s sort of what I’m obsessed/quickly becoming more obsessed about lately. But there’s so much and it’s hard to navigate to find good shit. But anyway. Can I ask you a huge request? Do you mind if I contribute a small section to your day? Not really anything huge... more like a kind of personal thing, so it shouldn't overlap much (if at all) with anything you're planning. I sort of need an excuse to write this stuff right now because I’m feeling kind of in tune, and it would really get my goat... But if not, that's cool. Let me know your e-mail if it’s okay, okay? My e-mail is: msuss@clarku.edu. If you don't mind me doing something, I'll get it out to you as quick as I can. Very cool.
Michael Karo, yeah, Dali was one of the first “weird” artists whose work I actually saw in the flesh when I was really young, so he has a special place with me too. I saw some of his paintings at an exhibition at a museum in Florida and then some later in London. I totally agree with you, Dennis, about most of the complete garbage he painted later in life. Seems like a lot of painters who enjoyed success did things like that. Painted for commission or sales instead of for what they should have been painting for, which is what? The bitch skeleton of death? I don’t know but not for some people who needed an interesting couch painting to start up conversation at their cocktail parties. But yeah, these drawings are really great, and side by side with Lautréamont is strangely exciting.
Antonio, that’s very cool about being able to travel to California to study art of all things. There obviously must be something mysterious and enchanting about art theory and criticism that I haven’t discovered yet. Share the secret, why don’t you? I don’t know why I just thought of this but someone should donate a human brain to you. You could create something sinister and magical with one, I think. Not that I’m saying your brain isn’t already magically evil, but you know what I mean. There should be more brain art... Math Tinder, I owe you an e-mail, I know. I’ve been crazily busy lately but enjoyed your last letter a lot and it deserves an energetic reply. So I haven’t forgot or anything. Everything I’ve read about "The Black Dahlia" has been overwhelmingly disappointing. But reviews that say things like “an incoherent mess” usually don’t bear any fruit. It’s a shame it’s getting panned by practically every newspaper out there but something similar is probably down the pipe for the new David Lynch film, which I’m exploding over... Though there’s supposed to be a “you have to see it to believe it” lesbian club scene in "The Black Dahlia" and a “vertigo-inducing murder on a spiral staircase,” which might be worth it all in the end. So anyone who’s seen it let us know what’s up about the movie.
Dali/Laureamont, fantastic! I don't know that I can convince you otherwise about TOOL. I'm not a big fan of music. Pearl Jam's politics? I say they're all fucking pigs (the entertainment industry), but...rich people, whatever. I don't vote. I don't agree to much. I don't have sympathy. This vote for sale, or whatever. Image shit. Manufacturing consent. Bicameral illusion. I am anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, anti-gay rights, pro-gun, pro-industry...meaningless shit. A punk, an anarchist! Aversive, anti-social. I'm ranting, sorry, Jeb 2008!!!
I've been having very strange dreams. Last night I was dreaming that you called me and we were talking. I was warmed and very taken by your voice. There were a few attempts at breaking the call and finally I woke up.
P.S. If you are of the rare mood, Lateralus and Riot Act can be fun listens.
davidE thank you! if/when we have a little girl you can definitely be her BGU!!!
PS please please a malkmus day, dennis!! plus will you tell us what he's like etc.? i'm just obsessed with pavement plus i have a major crush on SM (although is he gay?? i'll be heartbroken if he is!! all those daydreams as a teen can't have been fruitless ...)
From today's NYT:
"“I should have had a face a lot different than mine,” the actor and director and real estate mini-mogul Vincent Gallo explained backstage at the Bryant Park tents before the Anna Sui show on Wednesday.
Mr. Gallo looked wonderful, it should be said, his slightly crooked face set off by a chocolate felt fedora, his jacket shoulders structured to give him a Dick Tracy silhouette, his trouser legs flared in perfect Tony Manero fashion.
It would surprise some people to learn that Mr. Gallo had blond curls and a button nose as a boy. Then, one day — as suddenly as an event in a fable or a dream — he experienced his first “sex thoughts” and his nose grew large and his hair turned dark. And now he is a director famous for having persuaded Chloé Sevigny to be filmed performing on him an act whose name one is discouraged from printing here.
“People think I look scary and mean, and maybe I am scary and mean,” Mr. Gallo said. “But I always wished I had classic nerdy WASP looks.” He always wished, Mr. Gallo added, improbably, that he looked like George Will."
Ah but he THINKS like George Will, which amounts to the same thing.
Dennis,
I am a black metal fan. Though to be honest with you, I like metal music as a whole genre. I can't really choose one category of metal over another one. Children of Bodom, is a really great band. You should check them out if you ever get the chance. :) I've been listening to some really great metal bands lately. If you would like to listen to any of them, let me know. I'll be happy to send you any links or CDs of the bands. :) People are complex, I agree. I know with me, being new here and all, I just kind of shy away, from really saying much. Kind of like, only speak when spoken too. Ya' know? I don't know, it takes me a while to really open up to people when I first meet/talk to them.
I have a small question. Speaking of metal music, why is it that it's always associated with the Christian religion? Earlier today, when I was browsing the 'net, I came across this forum where people were discussing how Black Metal and Death Metal and such, were 'Anti-Christian' and racist. Just because, something goes against your beliefs and or religion, it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. Right?
Atheist,
Congratulations!! :)
Ah yes, the commune - Lautreamont dead and Arthur Rimbaud raped...
Dennis, unfortunately I missed both the Robbe-Grillet and the Resnais, but I have heard on good authority that the latter is especially good. Other films? Something that won't interest you but a nice little piece of salvage work (by Bertolucci) on an unedited documentary made about Pasolini during the filming of Salo. The Aronofsky was so far off the scale for bad, bad, bad it was nearly good again. Hollywoodland - Ok but kind of long and Ben Affleck sad and wooden (he still walked off with best actor though) as the original Superman Bobby - the RFK thing by Emilio Estevez - interesting but self-indulgent. Liked Cuaron's Children of Men. Really dark and dystopian, like the kind of doomy British TV I used to feast on the 70's. The new Crialese is good and I've even heard good words spoken about the Paul Verhoeven 'look I'm back in Holland' film. I didn't see Wicker man because I wouldn't go even if someone paid me. Alas didn't hear much good about Apichatpong Weerasthekuls latest called Syndromes and Century - his tropical malady remains one of my favourite films of all time, so graceful and mysterious
Aw, now I adore him even more!! Have just done Wikipedia on SM and he's got a little daughter ... Aw!! But now I want to munch him, which is not at all allowed on the Fanciable List ... SM, I'm sorry, you have now officially moved from the Fanciable List to the Munchable List ...
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oh i do love Ducasse.. though i believe he died at 24 alone in his hotel room of 'mysterious' causes.
he's supposed to be buried in the cemetière du nord.. but i'm not sure if there was any markings.. though his dad being a rich business man you'd think he'd have sprang for something
more Ducasse inspired art Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella
atheist - congratulations on the new addition!
I always loved the first Heaven 17 album because of the album cover and I thnk the songs are great. I am kind of surprised that Johnny Marr doesn't like that album. But disliking Ziggy Stardust??? There is nothing wrong with that record whatsoever. Is it possible for someone not to like Ziggy Stardust? I mean I could understand if someone prefers Low to Ziggy - or maybe they like the first Velvet album better than Ziggy - but to dislike the Ziggy album is beyond me. That one record defines an era. A photograph of a time and place. It's essential listening. Other then that I think Marr has basic good taste (kind of classic type of guy) in music. But really to dislike the first Heaven 17 - I think he was commenting on their later stuff.
Dennis, nice day! Especially the sex with sharks passage. my favorite passage. it's strange how time changes material. do you think there was supposed to be humor there? or is that post Monty Python pop surrealism the idea of sex with sharks becomes funny. yeah, i'm already digging in. I'm terrified.
Later today i'm going to post a couple segments from what i'm thinking will be the first of three sections. who knows if they'll even be in the first draft let alone the final.
Try to be well. Yesterday when i was feeling exhausted I put on the New Pornographers and jumped around and sang. I thought of you.
Thanks joe and atheist and 5stringsaphasia and mizu and paul and everyone!!! i love this place. we HAVE to find grant money to have a Cooperama so we can all meet and hang out.
Dynomoose: How is the baby? love and care to you and your husband and the little one.
David Ehrenstein, your fride must be stocked with six packs!
Vomiting Ghosts, I dunno about Black Dahlia either. But I also don't feel compelled to defend De Palma. He's made some first grade shit.
creativemassacre and rigby, thank you!!! and gregoryedwin - yes we fucking must!!!!
Eric Gaffney is in SF. Still home taping, self releasing, indie to the core (still looks good too). He had a band called 'Fields of Gaffney'that apparantly broke up last year (though they still get together for the occasional gig). He's come out of hiding for a some interviews related to the reissue of 'III' in the last month or so.
He's got something like three MySpace profiles, all loaded with the bitter rants of a genius left behind. This is his primary one:
myspace.com/ericgaffneysebadoh
Listen to 'Wanna be With You'
Listen, I meant no disrespect to Lou, but for every truly great Lou song, there's like 20 duds (either a rehashing of 'Poledo', or a BAD joke like 'Gimme Indie Rock').
The great ones, however, are amazing, and 'III' opens with two of his best (not to mention the Rockstar/Downmind/Renaissance Man trinity of awesomeness).
I'm gonna go listen to that now.
YEAH DENNIS his cock was SORTA BIG!! DIG IT UP! yeah,
also:::: smoking
i dont smoke. but i dont have a problem with my friends who smoke
smoking is so ubiquitous, that sometimes i feel weird for NOT
smoking.. isnt that totally AFTER SKOOL SPECIAL-esque!? haha
anyways, i dont smoke because i like to be really.. 'streamlined'.. i guess..
i dont want to carry shit around with me everywhere or feel obligated
to do anything.. like i dont WANT TO FEEL like I HAVE to have a cigarette
before my next action or something.. right? like
sometimes me friends will be like "hey stand here with me while i have a smoke" and im like
"NO I CANT DO THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE!!!" and then i fly off like a crazy person..
but thats strictly personal and is only one
of the weird reasons why i dont smoke.. or do alot of random shit actually..
like.. i DONT EAT during the day either.. which could technically be just as unhealthy as smoking apparently is..
but i really dont like to feel bogged down by something in my stomach, during the day. i dont
like to have the need to shit while im busy doing things.. or peeing alot.. actually i LOVE to pee.. so i do carry alot of water with me everywhere
hmm.. what else? yeah.. totally weird shit GOING DOWN.. i'm sure there are other things, but i cant remember right now..
GHOSTS:: totally.. i can so understand people not being at all enchanted by theory or actually the majority of continental philosophy..
because.. to tell you the truth.. im not that enchanted by it either.. i used to think that alot of current stuff was really just.. ridiculous..
but the more i ponder complicated writers, the more i come to the conclusion that they arent actually writing graphs, like i except.
one can read Being and Time and derive a graph for living from that. someone cant really do the same thing with Deleuze or Derrida, because their writing operates under
a type of philosophy that's alot more umm 'aesthetically based'.. lets say.. has derrida ever said that his books could be considered artworks? i dont know? anyone know? anyways, i definitely consider
them to be strange artworks.. just as complicated as any surreal Dali painting.. obviously he claimed in his lifetime that what he was doing was 'real' philosophy.. and i believe that that's completely true.
but at the same time i believe that it's something completely different and should be read as something completely different.. haha 'differant'
umm anyways.. so i think that FOR ME, philosophy operates as a reliever of alienation? yeah.. thats good.. i cant really explain why i sit in the library all day
reading Meditations or Metaphysics or any of that bullshit.. because I DO.. (haha!).. umm.. but i cant explain WHY.. i feel so hypnotized by gathering the books around me and taking
notes and writing strange things about it all and making it all connect.. you know? so also i think it operates as a sort of buddhism or daoism or something.. it's all so interconnected
when i get into verbal conversations about it.. it's almost like watching that OLD WINDOWS 95 SCREENSAVER.. the MAZE ONE.. where the little red brick walls are going everywhere
and you see that flat pixelated rat.. and YOURE JUST SO hypnotized by it.. that's how I GET when i talk about it.. i become THE MAZE.. and thats how i feel when i DO it..
ALSO!!! SPEAKING OF BODY PARTS!
in highschool i did this sculpture project that involved a stag hearts (my beuys phase) and i went to this DEER PROCESSING place
called BUCK N ANNIE's haah!! and i was like the queerest little bitchy art student in there dictating all these old southern dudes with their body parts!!!
hahahah!! anyways... the sculpture was COOL... but really the best thing that came out of the project were all these INSANE photos i took of the BUCK N ANNIE's crew
THIS PLACE WAS LIKE FUCKING TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE!!!! their little dining room (it operated out of a house) was ALL YELLOW and ROTTING and they had
the BIGGEST FUCKING ROTTING stuffed EAGLE over the fireplace!!!! and this little deaf dumb old guy was sitting in a rocking chair under the EAGLE!!! it was really
sort of like something you wouldnt even see in a movie!! it was BEYOND reality!!! so i took my camera and immediately snapped like HUNDREDS of crazed photos of this place!!
hahah!! rotting walls..... dead deer lying in doorways.. ... broken furniture.. insane looking old people with DEAD DEER..
anyways.. BUCK N ANNIE's still EXISTS.. so if anyone is ever in Alabama, give me a shout and i'll send you over to them.. they're surprisingly nice for scary serial killer deer processors..
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antonio, you are so fucking ace!! you make me laugh so much!!
i was thinking about you today - my friend said she was having a 'sartre moment', which made me think of you, and then i thought about sartre going on about a pen being designed by man but man hasn't been designed by anyone, so that means man has autonomous thought ... and then me saying that to my dad and saying how fantastic sartre was and him saying well a tomato hasn't been designed by anyone does that mean it has autonomous thought? so then i didn't have any ammo to spoil his argument! which was kind of frustrating! fuck you make me laugh antonio!!! you're just fucking ace - i really miss it if you don't come on here!!!
DAVID! hahah i LOVE GALLO so much! i will never turn away from him!!
MASSACRE:: mmm metal.. i dont think i really started getting into metal until maybe a couple years ago... my uncle has been REALLY INTO metal his whole life.. and he's totally nuts.. so i always sorta grouped NUTS and METAL into the same category.. but i think harmony changed that all for me.. i'm really traditional when it comes to metal tho, im almost exclusively about Mayhem, Emporer, Burzum, Darkthrone, etc.etc... mainly because.. i dunno... i had some insane rivalries with some metal kids who were into neo-3rd-wave metal bands.. and i HATED THEM SO MUCH.. so its not really the bands.. just the memories..
the dad's stopped talking to me - i have fucking nothing to write. i've all dried up, it's really frustrating.
haha! athiest thats totally nuts right!!!!! sartre was sorta crazed..
right now im reading nausea.. its pretty hottt!! although i find most existential fiction to really be the same.. 'something happens to man= NOTHINGNESS'.. right? cause like nauseau is basically the same premise as metamorphoses or the stranger.. diseases, imaginations, problems.. although i suppose in Nausea, antoine really does have those crazy moments of clarity in which he can see nothingness.. but hmm..
haha!! whose to say a tomato hasnt been designed!?! what was a tomato thousands of years ago? a little piece of toast!? a seed!? WE created the tomato! it's true!
well, yeah, but my dad is the ultimate atheist! which i guess is why i call myself the atheist, because i just can't rebel against my conditioning! i have been conditioned to be the ultimate atheist fighting machine - except i don't see how we can say there is no god. there is no god to me, because it has no resonance with me, because i haven't been brought up with that. that's it. you can't intellectualise something like god, you just can't. but a tomato? i guess we really have designed tomatoes, with GM etc. but i do understand his point. i think what he meant was that man isn't so different from every other living thing. we think we're so special but we're just organisms like everything else. ok, antonio, i'm enjoying talking about this. do we have free will or not?? and if we do what should we be doing???
BTW i meant Genetic Modified tomatoes, not George Mile tomatoes ... ; -)
or even Genetically Modified tomatoes ...
haha athiest! i LOVE IT!
yeah NOT EVEN GM tomatos right! what were our ancestors doing? creating motherfucking tomatos as we know it!
im not an athiest, mainly i choose to have illusions of spirituality.. sort of like when pascal is telling me to believe just incase.. but not really like that at all.. more because i NEED to believe in something because i know the sum of my actions lends absolutely no value to my life as i know it.... which is incredibly sad.. but true.. i really am dispicable.. but i dont have much of a problem with that because i 'believe' in fantastical things! haha!! free will!! well what is 'freedom' anyways!! hahah oh man, we're letting THE SARTRE get to us today, right!!? hahaha.. so yeah.. i dont believe in freedom at all.. it all comes down to what you talk about.. your conditioning.. so fucking pavlovian.. really everything that has ever existed.. i try not to believe that psychology functions.. i want to believe in the mysteriousness of the unconscious.. but sadly.. man.... i really cant do it often... sometimes though..
ok sorry everyone else - i'm just loving this conversation!! well i know what you mean about pavlov. but then don't you think there's another element - is it really just stimulus response? like this guy that was in a concentration camp - he thought to himself, while he was lying there: it's stimulus - interpretation - response. in other words we can choose how to respond? and i think well that's where kindness comes in? i don't know, i think it was camus or someone like that (probably not him but fuck know who) i'd rather feel compassion than be able to explain compassion (or something like that). and that's kind of how i feel? i mean, sartre etc. - i love reading about them, but at the end of the day it's about a feeling rather than about thought?? what do you think??
antonio, you are not despicable - there's something so real about you, so kind and so authentic. so if we're talking about a feeling, then you're 'it', for me ... which is why i love dennis cooper so much, both the writing and the person who presents himself on here ... it's the feeling that i'm talking about, not the intellectualisation, but the feeling presented ... it's just accepting something, just being honest, being open, being human without any pretentions ... which i guess is me loving my parents. i think i'm conditioned to love my parents, i think it's just something so deep inside me. i think it's me loving humanity, too. i guess it's me loving my mum with a brain tumour that made her a fucking psycho, but still i loved her ... i don't know ...
yeah, feelings.. i believe in them. but the more i think about the complexity of my feelings, the more i find they derive from so many experiences.
where is the purest sadness? does it exist? isnt this why we're all here? does DC represent the purest sadness for us? in all it's abstract glory?
probably not. but maybe he comes close to that primal sadness. maybe ALL we have is interpretation. the right to choose. but how do we choose?
what are the restrictions? choice is meaningless, interpretation is meaningless. something that is innate to us is at the base of that 'interpretation' it's an 'ancient' type of choice
but it's so obscured. i dont think i'll ever experience it at it's basest form. i'll always be dependent on my experiences, there's no escape. and i suppose that, for me, this is the purest regret.
that i will never know who i am.
haha despicability.. i'm pretty bad, i lack any semblance of ethics.. really i'm just an animal.. but im cool with that.. because noone will ever remember.. haha!!
but anyways.. man.. are we getting depressing or what? haha!! i love it.
alright i must go READ READ athiest! youre too much for me! i LAVER it!!
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Vomitingghosts: my email is ishahn666@hotmail.com, let me know what yr idea is and I'll see how it fits, but I imagine it wouldn't be a problem.
I saw the Black Dahlia this afternoon and it was a piece of shit. That lesbian club scene was so goddamn tacky, it had KD Lang for starters...the whole thing was all surface, no feeling. Entirely meatless, gutless. A good end though, and yeah, the staircase murder's fairly breathtaking but, God, what a chore it was to sit thru. Scarlet and Josh are no character actors and practically drown in each others wetness. Oh yeah, and just when you think there's no Hitchcock shot, BANG it's right there in the end..and it's The Birds of all things. Piss of DePalma.
i always liked those tool videos. very influenced by the quay brothers, anyone here know that work?
i found a fun little slideshow gadget on someone's myspace last night, so i went and made THIS... it's a selection of pics from my on-going san francisco black and white series. a few of the pics are on my saatchi gallery, but this new toy shows them much larger. there's a glitch on one or two pics with some blank space at the bottom, grrr! any comments are welcome, cuz i'm a needy bitch!
antonio, you get your ass to berkeley and i'll come down and give you the tour of MY sf! i'd certainly drive 5 hrs to hang with you...maybe drag you up here and show you the redwoods :)
Dearest Dennis & Co:
I've missed you! I've been away/busy/etc but I'm back now. I'm sad that I missed the objects of desire discussion, as I never tire of telling people about my Vincent Gallo obsession.
Antonio, I was so pleased when I saw your mention of Brown Bunny on here somewhere. It's one of my favorite films!
Hope all is well. I'll be around more now.
/d
Really d ?
Why?
You may not ever turn away from Gallo, Antonio, but he'll turn away from you or anyone else at the sight of the nearest mirror.
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Dali was the first weird art I saw too - we were taken from school to see that Christ on the cross thing
which was at Glasgow's art gallery (and may still be for all I know). Thought it was mindblowing.
No wait a minute - probably the first weird art I saw was in Marvel Comics - Neal Adams and Jim Steranko - who copied Dali's soft clocks. People who 'know' about art say what I like is only design - Dali/Warhol/Roger Dean album covers.
I'd love to believe Jake Gylenhaal was gay or bi but the only vibe I get is a straight guy who'se really cool with the gay stuff - which of course just makes him all the more loveable...
Yes Blade Runner still stands up in every way nearly 25 years later - that last scene and the opening wooosh as we see the whole cityscape and everything inbetween.I know it's unhip,but I still prefer the voice over original with the Vangelis/sky ending - and the 'love's theme', which was also cut.
Jimmy Sommerville went like a bomb for about 7 years then vanished without trace. I think he still does the odd gig here and there but I've never seen him in 15 years.The greatest hits DVD from Smalltown Boy to Read my Lips is amazing.
Oh Dennis you made a comment in one of the books about the stars not being white lights but rather light shining through holes in a black wall of sky. I think I've got that more or less right. Anyway, David Bowie said his line "A crack in the sky and a hand reaching down to me" (from 'Oh you Pretty Things') was deemed very revealing by his shrink because it showed that he was the sort of person who saw the sky as a solid object - crackable - what this meant I can't remember ! I think it was something to do with feeling confined/claustrophobic/depressed.
Just thought you should know you share a psychiatric peculiarity with Bowie...
an interesting soap dispenser
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joe mills...ROGER DEAN!!!! omg, i worshipped the guy when i was 14, 15...i still have that big book of his work, i had dean posters on my bedroom walls.
something tells me dennis was never a big yes fan :)
walking in the wild side
yeah
I feel like i can't see more
and only want to see
a Gosth
the Gosth of Misha...
the last pictures are delicious kinder toilleten!
ansd specially the ones with the guy
and the boy overdosed...
sleping beauty fucked by Orgasm it self!
Death shaged by Eros
Old man.....(Neil Young)
Old man...
Lost and Old..
old....
love old...
From near Dali...very near..
Good news: Persephone went to the doctor today. On the way there, she developed a terrible rash. We were thinking "hospital stay." We get her in there, the nurse practitioner takes one look at her and says "oh, it's just roseola. That rash will get really bad over the next week then it will go away."
Typical baby virus. No big deal.
WHEW!
She's in the livingroom now, talking to her pampers box. Just like normal!
Gues who:
"We undressed and he kissed me. It was the first time in my life that a kiss meant what it was supposed to mean — it sent me through the roof. . .I was like a man emerging from 44 years in a cave to taste pure air for the first time, feel direct sunlight on pallid skin, warmth where there had only ever been a bone-chilling numbness.
I pulled him to the bed and we made love like I'd always dreamed: a boastful, passionate, whispering, masculine kind of love."
"Dennis: Not really back, but just having momentary luck with the computer. It'll be solved soon.
My boyfriend, Weavie, had what appears to be a heart attack at work yesterday. He collapsed, and now his whole left body side is numb. I'm off to see what's up and what I can do.
The Userlands trailer is moving along just fine. I just need to get some more essentials: more film stock and tints. So much of this is hand work, versus computer work. It should be lovely.
My dude and mentor, David Hebb, will be contributing some sort of installation piece/loop/who knows? to the Detroit presentation. I think a Dave Hebb Day is in order, because he's done really amazing, worldwide installation work. But that will wait until after, or just after, the suggested Brandon/DFC Day. Or it could be incorporated. www.davehebb.com will give you, and the other participants, a clue to Dave's genius (check out the permanent installation in Iceland, if nothing else).
Eddie B.: Since my computer is so on edge, could you email me the link to Rallo so I can catch up? I caught Rigby's piece, which I thought was great, but now I can't get to the rest. Thanks. nrhoades@comcast.net
Dynomoose: You are my angel, savior, etc...for keeping me posted on what's going on when the computer does a dive.
Mr. Stamm: Hope you're good. Do call if you feel up to it. Best to you, dude.
perspects: Keep me posted about what's up.
You all be well. It's love at you from here. N."
This is actually Dynomoose posting for Statictick. It sounds like Steven had a stroke to me. I'll call them and see what's happening.
Dave Hebb is an awesome artist, a nice guy and the ex-boyfriend I feel most guilty about. LOL
I just tried calling Nick (statictick) and got voicemail. This is not unusual. I'll keep everybody updated until Nick can get back online himself.
Glad Persephone's OK and now worried about Weavie! Sure sounds like a stroke.
I think I liked Yes then - but of course punk blew all that away!
(Still like Jon Anderson/Vangelis "I'll find my way home").
David E - tell me tell me tell me!
i don't know if anyone saw the rankin series on C4 about evil.. but there was one interesting thing where they detected a signal in the brain before the area of the brain for thought had a response.. soo it seemed to show we are some form of suggestive marionettes.. hopefully someone saw it as they'll probably describe it better.. and we are talking micros of a milli-second
i just remember him at the table and saying.. "so if i 'decide' to pick up this pencil there has already been a message sent to my 'imagination' to pick up this pencil"
"that's correct"
blew me away.. i've been looking on the net but it's late and this has been a good reminder to follow up on this
gregory - so pleased for you.. now you can take a hot bath with some absinthe and a physical desire
m_k - i loved the pics with people in them.. i'm just that kind of person i guess.. too mant to mention.. but i really loved the wedding pic as it was something that the 'wedding guy' would never take but the couple would love
antonio - we have to see those pictures! maybe use m_k's discovery to post them somewhere (have you seen high tension? just watched it... arrrggghh!)
david e - i kind of like gallo in the way he doesn't compromise 'artistically'.. sure he's full of himself but he doesn't pander to the junkets and stuff like selling his sperm cracks me up (didn't beuys do that at one point?).. though that thing of a journalist he said he'd like to look like.. has started me to think otherwise.. not only is he externally ugly he seems like a right bastard inside.. thre thing is gallo is handsome (to me) and by gosh don't (s)he know it.. so that turns me off in anyone
joe - i loved sommerville in orlando.. that was so sweet.. and we hadn't seen him for awhile.. is he still doing music? that first bronski beat video is a true landmark.. though the guy diving into the pool was heh!
dynomoose - good news!
shit dynomoose/statictick.. i hope weavie is okay.. it does sound like a stroke.. don't worry.. with proper rehabilitation he'll get back to normal.. he'll just have to lay off the bacon and spliffs ;)
*hugs*
rigby, thanks! that pic..i was driving by this church in chinatown and the wedding party was all outside posing for pics. i snapped that from the car, i like how the happy couple is just barely there in the corner.
dyno, i see you're online...i'll see if you're around. hope the fever is down.
i think the idea of shooting from cars is a great idea.. when we were travelling through detroit at night in the winter we did alot of that.. until we got shot back at and not by a camera.. fair enough for them (we were lost)
oh and to explain further on the brain/conscious thing.. the physical movement of the brain flashed first BEFORE the idea area of the brain did.. that's what spooky
Hi all.
My computer's been screwed up lately, so I haven't been here for awhile. I'm posting from the library. Glad it wasn't a porn Day today!
I saw Dali's Maldoror illustrations at Dali Universe in London (I suggest anyone in the area check it out).
Anyway, questions I didn't answer in my absence:
Dennis, I said I would do a Rene Daumal/Simplists Day. I'm still planning on doing it, but it might be awhile. I hope I can do justice to the subject. I'll do an Ulver Day, sure. Maybe a music related day would be a good warm up for Daumal & company. I don't own any of Ulver's Black Metal albums, unfortunately. Maybe Jheorgge can cover those years for Black Metal Day and I can do beyond.
Jheorgge, I recommend 'The Nightmare Factory' as a good introduction to Ligotti, if you can find it cheap. If you can't find that, 'The Shadow at the Bottom of the World' is a good selection of some of his best stories, and it's still in print.
Have you heard C93's 'I Have a Special Plan for this World'? The words are by Ligotti.
The Coffin Joe films are worth a view if you can borrow them from someone. They aren't all-time favorites of mine, I was just digging them when I wrote my profile lists here.
...The library's closing so I'm off.
Take care everyone.
That is spooky rigby - I find those images showing brain 'movement' in different colours spooky too - I sort of don't want them to map every emotion down to coloured blodges and lines.
Then this woman with the metal arm she can control by thought. Where will it all end - surely if brainwaves can be connected to metal attached it won't be long before they can control metal - or whatever - at a (any) distance.
Don't think Jimmy S is doing anything - last record was in 1990 I think apart from some AIDS compilations things.Be interesting to see what he's like now.
__metal and Christianity: creative massacre, i'd say it's because Christianity provides a convenient structure in which 'good' and 'evil' are demarcated, which allows a lot of metal bands to use Christian symbols/trops to mark themselves as 'evil' - upside-down crosses, devil horns, etc. i don't know what percentage of metal bands total flirt with satanic imagery or simply the idea of being 'evil', but certainly a number do... so, if you're going to step out and say 'we're evil' in a Christian context, of course the Christian church is gonna call you on it. 'look at them: they're evil, they said so themselves.'
are black metal and death metal racist? whoa, i didn't even know that was one of the questions in the... milieu. i don't listen to metal at all so ok, i'm very curious about this Day.
__Tosh! actually, when Johnny Marr said Ziggy Stardust and 'any Heaven 17' [so he meant their whole canon, not just later stuff], i think he was making a keen artistic statement. he said it in the Meat Is Murder tour programme, not just a random interview. his answer is so illuminating for me: Rock Is Not An Opera. by saying he hates those records, he highlights himself as the crafter of perfect pop songs without context, without larger narrative. and, also, without wanky guitar: total jangle. The Smiths' albums are thematically unified, but they're not concept albums; that said, Meat Is Murder is the closest to a concept album they ever got. so when Johnny's asked his most hated record? Ziggy, one of the most famous concept albums of all time. Morrissey's most hated record was Band Aid, another of the most famous concept albums. i think they made very clever statements there about... what, for them, pop music is not. Heaven 17 is a band in a Kubrick film. Smith is the most common English last name. and so on.
__Weavie: love to all involved! i hope he's alright.
love, math+
*symbols/tropes
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__'weird' art: leaving aside more mass-culture things like film and literature- the first museum i ever went to was San Francisco's MOMA. so basically it was all weird art. i saw Dali, Clyfford Styll [sp?], the Duchamp urinal, Jeff Koon's Michael Jackson sculpture, Rothko, Rauschenberg, Warhol, Kandinsky, etc, all on my first trip to an art museum. [Mapplethorpe, Haring and Basquiat are the big ones i didn't see 'til later... ]
but the first museum art i _remember_ as 'weird' is, actually, Matthew Barney's. he's obviously had a long relationship with SFMOMA, and he had a show on during my first museum visit. i've tried to look up his SFMOMA 'résumé' online, to see precisely when, but can't seem to find a show that matches. i think the year was 1994? [1991 seems too early; 1996 seems too recent... ] the show was mostly petroleum-covered exercise equipment, and MOMA had built/fashioned a refrigerated gallery to house it. Barney's coated benches and barbels struck me as the sheerly strangest things in the museum, even weirder than the Koons sculpture. i also thought, 'wow the museum is sure willing to go to lengths for this Matthew Barney dude'.
years later i got All Ears, the great Soft Skull book that anthologizes some of Dennis' cultural writing. [to be perfectly honest, i didn't get around to ordering it 'til Soft Skull also printed Outline of My Lover, that boring book by Michael Stipe's ex-lover... 2000?]. in Too Cool for School, a sexy piece on the late-90s UCLA art scene that i had never read before picking up All Ears, Dennis writes, 'It's worth pointing out that while a number of UCLA students could soon hit art stardom, it's still nothing like being a rockstar. Consider Matthew Barney, arguably the most famous youngster artist of the 90s. Ever heard of him? Probably not.' i thought, Whoa, Are You Fucking Kidding? They Built A Fridge For Him Inside The Museum. but of course i did realize 'what are the chances' of me knowing him, etc etc. but yeah, Matthew Barney is what got printed on my mind as 'weird art' when i was about 12. i too instinctively bought a 'piece' of his art [what was realistically affordable to me, a numbered Drawing Restraint temporary tattoo... actually 2 of them... 1 to save and 1 to wear].
__Bronski Beat: i only really know Why and Smalltown Boy, but since they've come up in proximity to 'record collecting' day, i must share... i don't believe this is rare in the slightest, but the only other piece of vinyl i own, in addition to the Smiths and Jobriath records i mentioned on record collecting day, is a 12" of It Ain't Necessarily So that i bought for its cover art for $2 in Santa Cruz. i used to have it on the wall next to my drumkit.
__Dali and Lautreamont: i've now read through the text of the post a couple times and all i have to say is wow. Time To Go Process It.
luv, math+
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Math Tinder,
Thank you for your reply. I hope no one gets me wrong as to what I posted earlier. I certainly wasn't labeling it to be racist or whatnot, but, I was doing some research earlier and came across that. I know that certain "racist" groups have their own genre of metal and whatnot, but labeling mainstream black metal and death metal bands, certainly isn't right. I certainly apologize if what I posted earlier came across wrong in any way.
dynomoose, that's brilliant news!!!
rigby, that's so fascinating - i wish i'd seen it!
__creative m: it wasn't my impression you were calling anything racist. i was just mentioning, i wasn't aware that the subject of potential racism was... a point of note?... in talk about black metal or death metal... but then i don't listen to metal... anyway, even the mention of that kind of heated talk is always intriguing. xox.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_black_metal
There is definitely a racist contingent in the black metal scene, though the racism is often disguised as an allegiance to Norse myth and religion.
Read Lords of Chaos, published by Feral House, for a not altogether unsympathetic but really thorough investigation of that scene.
Not all of the Norwegian bands are National Socialists, but I don't think it's stretching it to say that many are at the very least anti-Semitic, which is enough for me to be kinda sickened by them.
That's not to say that I don't listen to them, though. I mean that shit's beautiful too. Like Wagner.
I've been into 1349 lately. Totally apocalyptic Gorgorothian mayhem. Who knows what they're singing about.
About the Christian thing, a lot of the Norwegian black metal bands actually renounced Satanism when they realized that what they were espousing was basically an inverted Christianity--so they got into Wotan and all that Norse stuff.
Interesting at the very least, no?
CMS
creativemassacre, i've just seen your latest post on your blog - i've left a message cos it broke my heart! you're a little star - just so cool and fascinating and complex and your writing is just so cool and fascinating and complex (though sometimes brilliantly simple). plus you in no way shape or form could have in any way shape or form have offended anyone re: black metal/racism, you were just expressing an idea to see how it fits and to see what other people think, right? i mean, i literally spout shit on here on a daily basis (sometimes an hourly basis), right? anyway, you are a star and i for one just love you and love that you come on here and really hope that you keep coming on here ...
__Antonio, oh, re Derrida's books as artworks- i knew professors from NYU who went drinking with him when he was in New York filmming that documentary about him [and one time i bumped into them at a bar, though nothing from that night made it into the film]. anyway, from hearing those professors and the tiny camera crew speak, and from seeing the eventual video documentary they made [which is pretty unremarkable unless you're a huge Derrida fan], my impression is definitely that Derrida thinks of his books as artworks, although i don't know any specific quotes from him on that subject. i haven't seen the documentary in awhile but i think he makes reference to 'convincing by poetry' or some term like that... [?]
a philosophy grad student [a very intense dude actually] was in this class on Wittgenstein i had with cinema studies prof Richard Allen at NYU. the philosophy student had also run into Derrida at a bar near NYU around that time and he'd been brave enough to buy Derrida a drink. he told me Derrida had mentioned he hated the term 'creative writing'. that made me smile.
xo, math+
*i'm sorry, that Derrida thought of his books as artworks. i forgot he died!
yeah, odalism doesnt really scare me much. i basically worship varg although he's totally THEE odalist. and i think youre right christopher! alot of the newer better 'metal' bands have abandoned the whole christian/satanic thing.. right? right now i'm REALLY LOVING Deathspell Omega! and their satanism really lacks the kitschy aspects of older black metal bands.. theyve done some pretty weird interviews about how they want to deal with satanism in a really strange metaphysical way. totally weird..
im really happy that there are some good mexican metal bands too, because sometimes i feel really nationalistic and then i listen to aesesino, yaotl mictlan, or brujeria (my fave!) and im like "YES!! MEXICO!!" i find most mexican metal to be really politcally motivated and thus in that vaguely 'terrorist'-politcal-metal-bent are alot scarier than the religious-satanic-bent alot of euro-metal has.. maybe because they promote terrorism and stuff.. and also because my granny & aunt used to tell me scary stories about drug lords in mexico and how they killed my uncles and stuff and how they will decapitate children and throw their heads through church windows and shit!! isnt that the scariest shit you could ever tell a child!!
umm anyways.. yeah.. my granny called me last week and was telling me how some drug dealers had decapitated several people and thrown their heads onto a nightclub floor!!!!! isnt that the scariest thing ever!!!
anyways.. goodnight all of you guys!!!
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__weird art: then, the first niche gallery stuff was a Mark Niblock-Smith show at a... gallery?... multipurpose building?... near the community seniors' center in Pasadena. i saw his scultures, installations, and wall pieces; and thought, 'yes, this is Weird Art.' he didn't have stuff that the public could actually buy, just pieces for sale for gallerists, but after i came back to the gallery 8 or 9 times and filled up mad notebooks sketching/describing the art, the... 'docents' [volunteer artschool kids] let me start touching his pieces, very gently, with only my pinky finger. we actually called it 'pinky swear'.
i googled Mark Niblock-Smith and was surprised to find no official site and no Wikipedia entry! granted, i really never came across his work again after that 1994-95ish show in Pasadena [Personal Best it was called], but i thought he was such a wicked talent...
Dynomoose, I'm really glad to hear that your daughter is okay. I missed the string of notes on that yesterday, and reading it this morning, I thought, "Oh, shit, that's not good." What a relief that it wasn't another nasty thing to deal with-- I think you and yours have had enough of that in the past year.
Congratulations, Auntie Atheist! I imagine that you're going to always be regarded by this kid as "the cool relative". May it always be so....
Gregoryedwin, PH.d. So nice. Can't wait to see more of your writing now....
And Antonio, who could ever seriously call you "despicable"? Every time I read one of your posts, I think, "God, he's like Ondine... only SO FUCKING MUCH MORE INCREDIBLE!"
I'm really pissed now. Was supposed to go hiking in a new mountain range today, and it's still raining like a bitch.
Wet Sunday.
Stuck inside.
Well, perfect day to do some more reading, yeah?
Or even Dr Gregoryedwin! Is there a Dr in the house? Dr Gregoryedwin I presume? Elementary, my dear Dr Gregoryedwin! What a star!!
Thanks Mizu!!!!
beheaded heads
mmmmm
mmmmm
very in tune with Maldorore
a bit mexico boy
the maybe you like Juan Rulfo
Pedro Paramo?
Because if you had
your granmama history telling then
maybe you would like that one
pedro paramo..
so heads
like fruits
mmmmmmm
like that..
few heads and mouths..
cutted and shoutedd
this mexicans
are hot
i am hot blooded too
torero
torero
Matador
specially now
after reading the bits of Maldoror..
i am ready for my Shark..
and i feel like shooting all the ones
in the sea soup!
and transforming
blue spumousses spunk cums
and blood bluesgreen gray shinny
shark shag..
hey chiquito!
torero
torero
red flower blood flower
at least like the italians all this murderers maldororers have sense of aesthetics..and staging
opera..tragedy..comedy..
they are tunned in!!
a miss you
adjoun
hedi
C?????
jgeorge: where can i get plan B mag?
i am most of the time in london
are you in scotland?
Never heard of this Ducasse guy, so thanks for the baptism of fire:) Like Joe, my intorudction to Dali was his 'St John of the Cross' painting, which Glasgow City Council purchased back in the 1960s I think for some ludicrously small amount, amidst a certain public outcry - 'Our people are living in slums and the Council's buying art!' kinda thing. But they've subsequently made loads out of the copyright - and hey, what do you know: the people are still living in slum:)
Some relgious nut also slashed the canvas in a fit of outrage, but the repair's not too obvious.
I know he got trashy as he went on, but I still think that painting is awesome - and if as a kid you're gonna be introduced to anything, it might as well be Dali.
Tosh, is the album cover you;re talking about 'Being Boiled'? the one with all the babies? It's amazing - Woolworths stocke dit, when I was younger, and I sued to go in every day and look at it.
Antonio, your deer-heart slaughterhouse story s fab! In the summer between school and uni, I manage two days working in our local slaughterhouse - yeah, a whole 2 days (my pal managed the whole three months!) Our local abbatoir was THE place to work, cos the money was unbelievable, but I couldn't take the noise r the smells. Big wuss me, eh?
My night with Edywin Collins?:) Okay, for those who may be interested - and borrowing the mantle from our eminence grise David E for a second:-
In the summer of 1979, I was in a band with Alan Horne, who went on to form Postcard. he was our vocalist, he adored Orange Juice, ahd a massive crush on Edywn, and sicne we knew the drummer, Steven cos he worked in a local record shop, got an intorduction. Alan, our drummer and guirtarist had a flat in Glasgow, I used to come over from Edinburgh at weekend, we'd all go to Orange Juice art school gigs together then come back to the flat...two bedrooms and a couch, Edywin and I shared the couch.
Although he was really pretty, I didn't like the guy: mouthy, snide, very fey (are ya hard yet, Dennis??) He did have talent though, I will grudingly admit:) Their drummer Stevn was much hotter - oh, and I used to own james T Kirk's old bass guitar.
NOW can I join the ;in crowd', with my credentials intact?:)
Oh, did any Uk-ers see that doc on US Christian Fundamentalists' literal interpretation of the Book of Revelation on Ch4 last night?
Forget osama - THESE are the really dangerous guys!:(
jax- did the band you were in ever have a record out? I ask cause my friend Chris is a huge Postcard record nut, and I wonder if yr band are ever included in the hi-story?
And yeah, I only saw the first half of that Revelations show last night, and yeah- some very wealthy people with some scary beliefs, for sure. Was the whole thing just in Israel? When I stopped watching (to have me tea, natch) they had just finished discussing the rebuilding of Temple Mount so that, like, the apocalypse can fucking hurry it up. Did he travel to the US at all?
Oh, and Lost Child- Plan B should be available in most HMV/Borders etc. and random newsagents, I see it alot about here, esp. as it's just gone monthly. Keep an eye out in the album and live sections for my concise, wityy downpagers, arf. First name George last name Taylor.
creative massacre - i think all of us here are blacksheep in our way.. but what a beautiful flock we make! ;)
cms - lords of chaos is a really interesting read.. i fell out with my best friends brother because his band and mates worshipped that type of behaviour and were constantly spouting racist bollocks
jax - i saw a doc. on the dali st john painting.. the mayor that bought it was really canny in getting the price down & getting the copyright as well! amazing bargaining skills and with such a formidable opponent Avida Dollars! apparently they became penpals and dali even turned up to tour the city
jheorgge, no, thankfully Alan decided his talents lay on the other side of the mixing desk, as it were:) Our band was caled 'Oscar Wild', we played live once...in Irvine.
What's Horne doing now, do you know??
I used to have a 'Falling and laughing' (Postcard 1) I would willing give your mate, but I think someone ran off with it at a party.
Yeah, on the doc he went to the US fairly early on, to talk to all those massive evangelist preacher people, but the most worrying part was the section on Uganda, where Doomsday preaching is huge, and people already with little to live for are being urged to stop plating crops, stopping going to school and just wait for the rapture:(
I;ll give 'em bloody rapture!!
heh.. I haven't even been able to be part of the relgion/metal conversation... so busy packing. I leave in two hours for Heathrow, then sleep there overnight and head to America in the morning. I'll be back soon :)
David E:
Incidentally, I didn't even see your post about Gallo until after I had posted! Funny, that.
Why do I like Gallo? Ah, the eternal question. Obviously, he's an easy man to dislike. He's created a persona for the public, and I find it kind of funny. A lot of people think that he's being serious all the time, but they're not giving him enough credit. For instance, for a ridiculous amount of money you can purchase his sperm on his website. Most people find this disgusting and the height of egotism. I find it hi-LAR-ious!
He's unbelievably honest and candid - something you so rarely see in the entertainment industry. He's also just geniunely nice - I met him once, briefly, and he was so polite and subdued.
But the main reason is that I think he's brilliant. He's a great musician,(his album When is really fantastic, and he has such a soothing, angelic voice), a great actor, and a great director.
Brown Bunny is one of the best films I've seen in the last few years - something that I found unnervingly sincere. It struck a personal chord with me.
And there's also the fact that I find him wildly attractive (though most people just think he looks like Charles Manson).
Surely I'm not the only one?
Isidore Ducasse was the greatest thing ever to come out of Uruguay. EVER. I love his intangibility as a person, the absence of all biographical detail. Born questionably, wrote questionably, died questionably. One iffy photograph. One sketchy, semi-plagiarized book. Done, Isidore -- you've one me over. Not to excuse any latter-day literary shams, but I do love all these fake aristocrats from the nineteenth-century.
And speaking of artist/writer collaborations/confrontations, there's a neato show going on at the New York Public Library on precisely that topic. Lots of French writing on display in artsy editions. I don't remember if le Comte was there or not, but I do recall seeing Ubu Roi. Merdre!
d. the way youy talk about Gallo sounds like Dr. Melfi explaining her attraction to Tony Soprano. Should you ever run into Christina Ricci ask her about Gallo.
Then stand back.
Derrida's books are indeed art works, especially "Glas." Have you ever tried reading that one? "Finnegan's Wake" is Barbara Taylor Bradford by comparasion.
Surprised you didn't like the movie by my friend Kirby Dick. Mrs. Derrida is especially funny in it.
Should we have a Derrida Day? I think "The Post Card" is a great novel in the William Gaddis tradition.
Antonio is an Ondine-in-training. But he's not taking the same drugs.
merdeusse!
Will:
very inspiring words about the urugayan kid
you think the guy baudelaire descrives in la fanfarlo samuel cramer has to do with it?
samuel is half chilean and german...
do you like Modest Mouse?
I love them!
really really!
and also Cursive....
why you say the Maldorore is been plagiariced?
how a book can be plagiarized?
if is obvious then should be not that easy??
maybe not maybe it is easy to copy cat
cut paste bla la bla la..
laaa...
oh no!
dead and plagiariced
could this be most horrifiing abiss void swallowed by mouths of virus mimeticals shit??
comdennation!
o blessing?
Comte de L'autrefois
katsim, have a safe journey and good luck with everything!!
Dynomoose, good news about your child!
Math tinder thanks for clearing up the Johnny Marr quote. I think your thoughts on his statement is right on the mark. As a pop music fanatic I totally agree with Marr's thoughts - but on the other hand I never think of Ziggy as a concept album - for instance like Tommy.
There is a mood and theme for sure that goes from the first song to the last - but I also see the album as a greatest hits collection. The individual songs are so strong - that it exists beyond its concept.
With respect to Meat is Murder, I think that is my favorite Smiths record. I also like their last album as well.
On Dali - like millions of other kids he was sort of my personal discovery of an artist. Which is a strange thing for me to say since I was raised in a household of artists. But nevertheless my father gave me a Xmas present (when I was ten or so) of one of those budget hardback Abrams edition of Dali's artwork. That was my first art book!
I was totally struck by his skill (wow) and vision. Also when I saw him on a talk show (Dick Cavett) he just totally won me over. I couldn't understand a word he was saying. But his clothing, facial hair, all of that I thought was fantastic.
I grew out of him by my teens. But funny, there is a story about Duchamp and John Cage. They were hanging out, and Duchamp wanted to visit Dali - who I guess was in NYC at the time. Cage was sort of not impress at all with Dali's work or image. But Duchamp seemed to love him.
They went, and Cage thought he was not that hot, but Duchamp just loved him. So overall I think the great thing about Dali is that he was a performer of sorts. And again, like Ono, he is both the most underrated and overrated artist on this planet. Everything David E. has said about him is true, and he also treated his old friend Bunuel quite harsh and mean. But nevertheless he was Dali, with all of his faults. Saying that these drawings that were put up yesterday by Dennis are fantastic.
The old Tosh doesn't admire Dali anymore, but he remembers the younger Tosh - and therefore a very important part of my culture was opened and exposed for more exploration. Thanks Dali!
Jax:
Tosh is referring to the cover of 'Penthouse & Pavement' which is like a mock corporate illustration.
The naked babies under the cracked glass dance floor is the cover for 'Reproduction' the (original) Human League's first album, the CD reissue of which contains their first 'Electronically Yours' single (Being Boiled/Circus of Death)
Here's the Blind Youth site once again.
enfant perdu:
I don't know much about darling Samuel, but maybe? In re: Modest Mouse, I think they have some great tunes. I loved The Moon and Antarctica, two of my dream travel destinations, by the way. I like the mathish aspects of their work. "The universe is shaped exactly like the earth, if you go on straight long enough you'll end up where you were." That's Riemannian geometry in a nutshell, but it might not be true, unfortunately, of our cosmos if it turns out to be infinite to all compass points. Then this would be most horrifiing abiss void swallowed by mouths of virus mimeticals shit, after all. Baleful possibility -- endless repetition! But genius steals, and if our earth is plagiarized by another, good luck to those poor copycats -- I hope they live through our nightmare.
Lautreamont allegedly lifted some of his prose from things like ephemeral nature guides, for example that bit about the storks. He was such a perfect dear, though, I don't think anyone minds. I bought a little t-shirt with his face on it the other day -- so darling. If the choice was between le Comte and the post-punk era Edwyn Collins, I don't mind saying that one would be simply tossing coins about. But stealing from someone's great dream: to have one's lovely cake and eat it, too!
Jax I considered the fundamentalist thing but thought no, two hours of that would have me climbing the walls – but I did watch the Scissor Sisters live in Trafalger Square! (I'm in a hiding from reality phase) Wonder if any Londoners here went to that - introduced by Kylie Minogue. How could you resist.
(I didn’t know Anamatronix’s father died of AIDS – god that makes me feel old).
Also watched some great progs about Stiff records on BBC4. Forgot how many great artists they had – Madness/Elvis Costello/Ian Dury/Pogues/Devo/Damned. Even Tracey Ulman’s 50s girl group take-off stuff - ‘They don’t Care about Us’ - was great. Lene Lovich rather sadly still wearing the ‘zany’ head gear she wore 25 years ago.
Madness were amazing – did one of the best ever love songs ‘It Must Be Love’ (“I never thought I’d miss you/half as much/as I do”). Also to me their Jack the Lad style and ‘dancing’ was really sexy - especially that guy that just danced at the front. UB40 and The Beat were also working class lad sexy – remember Dave Wakeling the blonde singer from the Beat? Also great records with a message that wasn’t grating - ‘Stand Down Margaret’ ‘King’ (Martin Luther).
Rupert Everett’s autobiography (Red carpets and other Banana Skins) looks interesting – he read a bit on Newsnight on Friday about Shirley Bassey
making a fool of herself at Joan Collins’s wedding – which he nearly missed, getting sidetracked by a night of gay club debauchery (Shirley “Are you on acid?” Rupes “I may well be.”) This shows he’s not averse to spilling the beans no matter how many bridges he burns.
He stayed in Glasgow for a while when he was at the Citizen’s Theatre but I think he preferred the parks to the pubs - a quote from interview in yesterday’s Glasgow Herald:
“As a teenage schoolboy I learnt who I was,or at least who I wasn’t.I was probably going to be homosexual and that meant I was going to have to learn to act."
And “Fame to me meant being on top of the list in every VIP cordoned-off area in the world.”
Loved his two novels.
paradigm, you ok babes?
Dennis,
You have done very well this day. Dali/Lautreamont. I never knew of Lautreamont. I don't feel that Dali can be overrated, nor Ernst or others. Sorry to have ranted about politics. An chance to say "anarchist" with good context.
Dynomoose, very happy to hear your baby is well. Is Statictick alright? I pray so. Good luck to jheorgge on Black Metal Day, Jesus.
I see much talk of philosophy and Derrida. I think Derrida is total shit, I despise it. I also hate philosophy and most of psychological studies. Good conversation as it were can be very nice, so as other things, philosophy has it's fruits. George Miles tomatoes??? Rigby_ High Tension, fuck yeah, killer flick, Franch, love it. Mkaro_I love your photos. They make me want to visit SF, and remind me of how I never look at people above the neck. Another strange dream last night, kissing and comforting one of my favorite boys.
Very true, david e., but just think of his endless potential and potential longevity... makes me shiver with a bit of happiness to know a mind like his is out there, even if he still is a growing boy!
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ok, weird news story of the day...
No Attempted Sexual Assault Charges For Grave Diggers
"The three men accused of trying to dig up a young woman's body to have sex with will not be charged with attempted sexual assault.
A judge says he tossed out the charges because Wisconsin has no law against necrophilia
But he says Nicholas and Alexander Grunke and Dustin Radke still face lesser charges of criminal damage to property and attempting to break into a burial vault.
The three 20-year-olds were arrested after they tried to dig up 20-year-old Laura Tennessen of Cassville.
They didn't know Tennessen but saw her picture in an obituary.
The Grunkes and Radke will be back in court October 9."
Laureamont lifted quite a lot from William Beckford, will. Read Vathek.
No idea what your problem is with Derrida, 5string.
Rupert Everett's novels Hello Darling, Are you Working? and The Hairdresser of St. Tropez are quite good, so I look forward to this new book. But he's a Piece of Work and His Own Worse Enemy. He frankly admitted that he drove John Schlesinger to an early grave with the wildly ill-=advised The Next Best Thing
David E, hey. 1. He's not attractive, savy, or however.
2. No one needs to blabber endlessly about the brilliance of the symbolic interactionists. 3. Rousseau, is great and all, but "define: Social Contract Theory". 4. What is...definition. What is...not poetry. The above is just examples of my thinking on Derrida
Another note: decentralization is simply Nietzschian metaphysical truth and the eventual result of decent enculturation processes. As Burroughs wrote that Einstein wrote, on and on. Language games are great, but talk is cheap, and the voices many
In the Rupert Everett thing he mentioned 'directors I have murdered'.
Prog on there about Alexander McCall Smith - another Polygon author (I must be the only author of theirs that never went on to huge success). Seems to have rock star followers for some reason - Flea from Red Hot Chilli Peppers reading and Alex James - DC's old unrequited love. He was quite unshaven and swarthy so I liked him - thus you can relax now Dennis, what you liked about him is probably gone. Got a new band out, quite disco-ey apparantly. Won't be as good as Damon's Gorrilaz.
McCall Smith is serealizing chapters of his new book daily in The Scotsman - I thought he would say it's a Dickensian thing but he said he got the idea from Armistead Maupin, who he's met, and his SF chronicles.
"No one needs to blabber endlessly about the brilliance of the symbolic interactionists."
That's not what he does at all.
"What is...definition."
That's his primary question.
"What is...not poetry."
Journalism.
"decentralization is simply Nietzschian metaphysical truth and the eventual result of decent enculturation processes. "
Who is "decrenalizing" what?
Ok, I'll play along. I do love your posts. So, what is it then that he does if not that. What has he done?
He has a primary question, and it is what? What are other questions he has asked? "Decrenalizing"? I am not familiar with the term. As for decentralization. I would gather it is generally a sort of youth orienting and coping with itself, otherwise industry and fairly useless delusions.
David E:
If I can into Ricci I'm sure that all I would do is grill her about Gallo. I'm aware of all the terrible things they've said about each other, but regardless of what people say about Vinnie, I still can't help but find him charming.
So he may be a bit of a narcissist and an egomaniac, but what great artist isn't?
"He has a primary question, and it is what?"
"You terrify me, you are bad for me, when will I cease to be afraid of you, of the entire picture you send back to me?"
"As for decentralization. I would gather it is generally a sort of youth orienting and coping with itself, otherwise industry and fairly useless delusions."
Derrida never evidenced any interest in youth. Not even in Ghost Dance, in which he co-starred with Pascale Ogier and Leonie Mellinger.
Statictick/Weavie update:
As of last night, Steven was still refusing to go to the hospital and requested that Nick (statictick) not go to his house. Fortunately for Nick and unfortunately for Steven (Weavie), this kind of thing tends to leave Nick more angry than concerned. So Statictick is getting through this just find and Weavie is up in the air.
Derrida never expressed interest in youth, but Dennis has. Fuck philosophy! Read Dennis! Really my only point. =)
5string...thanks!
joe...that traci ulman song is like the PERFECT little pop song, isn't it?
david e...omg the next best thing! what a movie. they had reflected light on madonna's face in every scene, it looked so odd. it's amazing how her acting started out strong and she just got worse and worse. swept away was soooo bad. course,people say she was good in dss cuz she wasn't acting.
i would love to see madonna and courtney love re-do baby jane.
but thank god madonna and britney never got the idea to re-make all about eve! haha, can you imagine?
or would madonna as margo channing be good?
oh what am i saying? she can't act her way out of a paper bag these days.
I suspected as much.
Youth doth have its chamrs.
And that reminds me -- Antonio if you're coming to California be sure to stop off and see me in L.A.
michael karo -- the only good thing in The Next Best Thing was the scene where Doogie buried his boyfriend.
I love Vathek. I want to live Vathek -- minus the eternal speechless damnation. Lautreamont knew where to steal 'em.
Yes that was a great Tracey U song - and she always did great videos. Written by the underrated Kirsty McColl -who died tragically in that speedboat accident.
Loved DSS but don't think Madonna can let her own self go enough to act - Baby Jane with Courtney (Bette role natch) and Kylie - that would work! Maybe DC should do a top 10 fantasy 'remakes' day -Cat on a Hot Tin Roof with Jake G and Nicole Kidman, Robbie Coltrane as Big Daddy. She so has to make up for Bewitched! My fave current actress / my fave childhood TV prog - and what a mess.
david e...so what IS up with doogie, i know he did rent, etc. has he ever talked about what rings his bells?
joe, did you see to die for? i think it's a perfect movie! nic was so good, so seemingly unaware that the other characters saw her as a fool. or at least the viewer, i guess i mean. that's acting! there's dozens of scenes i just love so much.
what was the kid's line...."when ever there's weather, i just have to jack off."
i think she deserved the oscar for that role!
Doogie hasn't said a word. Currently he's on "How I Met My Mother," a sitcom where he plays a roaring heterosexual. In what's usually called real life he's been said to be having an affair with David Burtka who played Tulsa in the revival of Gypsy that starred Bernadette Peters. As everyone knows (or should) Tulsa is THE transcendent gay role as he is a chorus boy (read GAY) who gets the biggest non-Merman number in the show:
"Well, you see, I'll pretend I'm at home getting ready for a date.
I take a comb, comb my hair
Take a flower, smell it, put it in my lapel
And I spot the audience!
Once my clothes were shabby
Tailors called me, "Cabbie"
Got so rough I took a vow
Said this bum'll
Be Beau Brummel
Now I'm smooth and snappy
Now my tailor's happy
I am the cats meow
My wardrobe is a wow!
Paris silk! Harris tweed!
There's only one thing I need...
Got my tweed crest
Got my best vest
All I need now is the girl
Got my striped tie
Got my hopes high
Got the time and the place
And I got rhythm
Now all I need is the girl to go with'm
If she'll
just appear we'll
Take this big town for a whirl
And if she'll only say, "My darling I'm yours"
I'll throw away
My striped tie
And my best-pressed tweed
All I really need
Is the girl.
I start off easy, you see?
Now I'm more debonair...
Ssssssssssssssh! Aaaaah! Break ... Now! Yeah!
And I settle here... I start this step, see?
And then I build it... Double it!
She appears all in white and I take her hand,
Kiss it and lead her on the floor...
This step's good for the costume...Astaire's pat!
Dah dah dah dah...Dah dah dah dah yah dah...
Now we waltz, strings come in
And I lift her...Again... Once more!
And now the tempo changes and all the lights come up
And I build for the finale
Louise, that's it!
Come on over here...
Follow me... Faster! Charleston...
Again... Do it again! Ha!"
I stood on a checkout line in a WeHo supermarket once with Doogie right in front of me several years back. I should have used the opportunity to apologize for the bad review I gaver him for his performance in Clara's Heart when he was just a wee tyke.
I was wrong!
DOOGIE FORGIVE ME!!!!
I loved To Die For too - and the Hours/ The Others/ Moulin Rouge
Matt Dillon was also great in To Die For. I keep forgetting what a good actor he is - too busy staring at those big low eyebrows...
Will:..i love this song that means the psicogeometry eternal return..
their tunes and structure are infectious!
I will read more and also Vathek..
very interesting conversations about derrida filosfy theory shit and genious and preferences of all sorts..
Youth is a comodity sorry..
my little intervetion here..
we can love young Mishas..
Like in greece with reverence for innocence or reverence for polimorfous perverts..
But a mature person..an adult an hero a master a Captain..
this is been allways the real deal..
why we do love Dennis?
We maybe like what he writes and his spirit..but he is a Captain..
In the very past a 30 year old was an adult in his midlife..
Look at Adrian and his boy..
I did had lots of thougths about him and Dennis..
Anthinnoo/ George Miles..
I workshiped old ppeople allways
and also young..but to overvaluate this Youth...so flat and narcissistic..so overrrated..
i do not like that..
it is comsumerism..
Guy Debord will agree...??
well probably my filosofy is just basic..i love guts blood taste thougths that get me in my belly and give me imsomnia..
It is true that some people that uses Derrida as their Goodfor their ortodoxias gets on my veins in my brains
inflamated
But i love to learn more and read more..
if only i could!!
Any london based folks
maybe interested in Cerith Win Evans
my dear friend and admired artist shows from the 19 sept at the ICA..
nite nite
mornig....
maybe we all have sort of surreal melted dreams?
Lost no missing me
i'm always around
except when i'm not around but coming back is always necessary for me even when feeling out of the place where you are supposed to be fitting in which is no place you know it is always this way in that way for me
like comfort is feeling discomfort and comfort is waiting for discomfort so no worries
now more than ever because sometimes i feel in here but now more not feel in here you know but it's because of me because i take my discomfort here too my feeling of the index finger poking my spine everywhere like father did when he said no slouching index finger in my back no slouching index finger poking poking poking until i slouched to be poked and he poked so that i slouched but here sometimes i feel the poke in my back even if the worms have eaten his index finger and i straighten up a little tic now of straightening out for just a second and slouching again bad posture even if he wanted to give me a good one sometimes i say stupid things on purpose like lies that let me pass
i think sometimes words don't work for anyone except the people who it works with like slut doesn't work for a man and whore doesn't work for a man but slut and whore works for women and artist because more is expected and then salvador became whore and it worked for him because not just a man an artist is expected more from not sure if this is justice that a human being is expected less than an artist but maybe it's not the same thing and maybe it's just
ok
c.
i love dennis because youth means things to him i think that have to do with endings and this is how it feels when it's a young person like i don't feel youth i feel the endings and that's what he shows how it is with youth that feels the end like dean who knew he would die in a week and youth always thinking it will die in a week like tragedy will belong and not just the mundane time passing of age that something is special when it only lasts one little bit and still new but older and ending is too late it's stupid because the older man always eats the younger man with that promise when he canibalizes the younger man he says you will end before expiring and then the young man is the meat but the meat is just the meat and it's only special because it's the youth in it the death that is still nutritious like the milk that comes from the tit and the older man is the only one who can appreciate because the now is not just now and the youth is not just youth but other things like worshipping the cross from thinking of sacrifice so worshiping of young body not sacrificed yet but the canibal makes death ritual and not just nature contra natura a revolution against nature made into meaning not happening
__'Surprised you didn't like the movie by my friend Kirby Dick'... David E, wasn't sure if you were talking to me or not? i tried to see if others mentioned the 2002 documentary. me personally, it wasn't that i didn't like it; i actually like it a lot. i just think it's nothing special if you're not already a big Derrida fan.
__'No one needs to blabber endlessly about the brilliance of the symbolic interactionists.' hmm... and it goes without saying that no one needs to make art, or write cultural criticism, period. but 5stringsaphasia, that's basically what i see Dennis [and so many others!] doing too... expressing excitement over symbolic interactions. it's simply what a good wordsmith does, if you ask me...
xo, math+
Hey c -- way back in the early 60's Bertolucci planned to make a move called Nature contra Natura starring Jean-Pierre Leaud, Lou Castel, and Allen Midgette. It was obviously an effort to turn Midgette into a star. But it didn't fly amd was never made. So Midgette came back to the U.S. and joined the Warhol factory.
haha Jax!!
man!! i could SO NOT handle the slaughterhouse!
actually i dunno.. if they let me work the books in the kitchen or something
perhaps i could manage..
but really even the stench of the kitchen was vaguely unbearable..
how did john wayne gacy ever manage!!?
haha!! YES I HAVE SEEN GLAS DAVID!!! ohmygod!
so true!! that F.Wake comment is so right on!!
man, ONDINE TOO! i always liked ondine more than andy..
one Halloween i was THE POPE, but i wore a giant curly black wig and a plastic-jew-nose.
noone got it.. ehh.. sad..
HOMYGODDAVID you and i shall have a party!! or get drunk with alot of hot berkeley dudes!!
and karo ohmygod.. redwoods yeah! soo vertigo!! will you let me reinact that redwood scene? i'll wear a green felt coat and shit and everything!!
and we'll find a redwood slice and i'll point to a spot on it and say here i was born, and there i died. It was only a moment for you, you took no notice
man can i promise all this shit? im so going to have to work and shit too right!? damn..
anyways i should probably be working right now.. damn you DENNIS! DAMN YOUUUU!!!!
ONE TIME I WAS PLAYING THE GUESSING GAME!!!
where im thinking of someone
and everyone guesses objects that might represent that person if they WERENT a person!!
and i was thinking of BROOKE ASTOR!!
and one of my good friends Ali guessed a chauffeured black coup de ville! and i said YEAH, this person could be that!
and she immediately guessed BROOKE ASTOR!! and it was only like THE SECOND GUESS!!!!
which was totally insane, because we hadnt gossiped about BROOKE in like a couple weeks!!
ACTUALLY we had just gotten done gossiping about BETTY CATROUX!
man, my circle is totally weird.. sorry..
umm anyways, i would TOTALLY join in on the philosophy convo... but that would involve me hauling out some hefty books and shit
and i seriously just dont want this to be like homework and shit!!
and also today was TOTALLY one of THOSE days!!
ALTHOUGH OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODHOFGKFGOGLGHKDUFCKK
!!!!!
DENNIS AND DUDES!
i have BEEN BUYING AN UNGODLY amount of halloween costuming!!!!
MASKS and MASKS and SKULL SHIT and insane bones and necklaces and makeup and shit!!
and i just DONT EVEN KNOW WHO OR WHAT im buying this for!!!!!!?!?! hahahaahahah
its seriously INSANE!!!! my mom is like WHAT THE FUCK are you buying all this
shit for!?!?
and im just like .... i DONT KNOW!!!?!?!
i think somewhere in my mind, i have some projects i want to use this shit for..
but it hasnt coagulated yet
anyways... the other week i bought a giant bone necklace..
umm a long godiva wig.. a black face hiding mask... a JASON mask.. some skeleton gloves..
and a grim reaper mask...
TODAY i got.. an old lady witch mask.. a scary old dude mask.. a giant spear with a skull on the end.. a bride of frankenstein wig..
umm.. what else?? some fake blood and makeup.. some color hairspray stuff.. AND OHMYGODOHMYGOD!!
this INSANE ghost costume with like all these printed graphic stitches all over it!! which im modifying and wearing tomorrow.. because
you seriously just cant buy fabric with bloody fake stitches all over it!! haahah.. ohmygod. im going crazy..
anyways... HOT RIGHT!?
alright MUST GO!
P.S. DENNIS DO YOU OWN THIS BOOK!? man, expensivvvee!!
P.P.S. 116 comments!! SHIT WE"RE ALL CRAZED!!
You should see Kirby's other films, Math. His latest is an attack on the MPAA ratings board.
He's also One Fabulous Babe! (but alas married.)
actually the JASON mask is for sex..
Antonio mon amour!
I was thinking of a Berkeley dude just today. He's destined for the memoirs of course.It was well over 30 something years back and I was visitng California to see my friend Peter Blum (a brilliant film critic and truly wonderful friend whose life sadly ended in sucide in'72) He was living in Los Gatos. Up tgere for a few days out in the forest (lovely) then we drove into Berkeley and were staying at the aprtment of a friend of his. Peter had gone looking for his then-girlfriend, or prospective girlfriend (he was always in pursuit of women who rejected him) and I was alone. It was a hot afternoon -- sunny and clear up on the 10th floor or something. Way down in the pool was the most beautiful guy swimmign stark naked . I stood there looking at him transfixed -- and he saw me. Then he asked me to come on down. So I did. Well you can guess the rest. Never got his name. We were both stoned out of our gourds needless to say.
Ah Naked Youth!
a - sounds like a severe screamin' jay hawkins costume.. i like the idea of a bride of frankenstein wig!
so do we get to see these photos or are you saving them for a cookbook?
btw just watched the brown bunny film.. er.. ok.. the last 3minutes were great
and no
i don't mean the credits
whoops i forgot.. cannibals in advertising
youtube
and karo do you have a link for the necro story?
Is there any Screamin' Jay hawkins on YouTube. There's so fuckin' much there! Just discovered all the Ozu stuff. Amazing French documentary on Setsuko Hara, which included a picture of her in a tux taken when she visited Hollywood and was being squired around by Marlene Dietrich!
Math+_ Hi. Really exited about Research Chemicals Day. What is Derrida's is Derrida's. I think to the educated and discerning eye, the truth of him is he is torness and wastedness and little more, not to say useless by any means. Thus is my opinion. "He who runs may read."
Dennis rocks! =)
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rigby, the link is HERE... it's a newspaper, so it might be gone in a few hours.
__5strings yeah, i do run, so i do read... i dig. hm, in general, i tend to react to that kind of phrasing: 'nobody needs to _______',... we're engaged in making art and we're talking about what people 'need to' do? in that writing is a leisure activity [personally, it's the basis for my idolization of idleness], writing is never 'needed', whatever the genre. meanwhile, in that writing is also a therapeutic/exorcistic/fun/sexy thing to do, it's always 'needed'... thing is, if you were to ask me to explain writing basically, 'blabbering endlessly about the brilliance of symbolic interactions'- that, for me, is a workable description of writing in general. i'd probably say 'waxing', not 'blabbering', but same basic deal; and that's the way, uh huh uh huh, i like it..
me, i enjoy reading Derrida's books in all the most basic ways. they're fun; they're unique; they're on bizarre topics; they introduce me to metaphors i doubt i would have ever originated myself; and even when translated, that prose is quite fucking ace by me. i would even call his prose 'sexy' but does that make me look like too much of a gradschool kid...?
much luv, math+
yo dennis, you'rer really going to have fun scrolling through and answering all these entries on momnday. don't envy you that task.
anyway last night whilst listening to the radio at work i heard an interview with this author somoen Shriver who's written a novel called 'we have to talk about kevin' it's a novel about a teenage serial killer . heard it and thought of you.
atheist, congrats on the aunt hood. i've started writing the email to you but i'm scared of sending and finishing it because of what i've written.
antonino, BEING AND TIME huh? all i remember from that tome is one sentence where the word being is repeated six times in 25 words.
personally i think philosphy has disappeared up it's own arse.. they're so scared to be mis-interruptated they spend a book qualifying a sentence.. i decided my reading of A Thousand Plateaus was that of fascist poetry.. longest poem i ever read.. how long is howl? another dreadful poem.
i think auntie atheist sounds excellent.. my new nickname for her!
Derrida...
It looks like the conversation here has officially run over my head. Probably happened long ago, though.
Actually, I read 'The Gift of Death' by Derrida years ago, and remember liking it at the time. I loaned it to a friend who didn't like Derrida at first, and then started getting into him, while I got out of him. I haven't read anything else by Derrida. 'Glas' sounds interesting. Anything that makes Finnegan's Wake look like Barbara Taylor Bradford by comparison is worth taking a look at. I'll have to look up Barbara Taylor Bradford as well, because I have no idea who that is.
For some reason, until today I thought 'Glas' was a book by Blanchot that I read years ago. The book my memory mistitled is 'The Madness of the Day'.
I read stuff by Deleuze, Foucault, and Blanchot shortly after high school, but the only one who stuck with me is Blanchot (except for the correct title of one of his books, apparently :) ).
Nowadays I sympathize a bit with Rigby's "...disappeared up it's own arse" comment. I still like philosophy, though. My favorites are E.M. Cioran, G.C. Lichtenberg, Otto Weininger, Ludwig Wittgenstein, and Lev Shestov.
paradigm, i'm so glad you're ok babes!! and SEND IT! seriously, there is nothing you can write that can shock me, i promise you, i seriously promise you. mum with brain tumour = very crazy psycho mum as child = unshockable, i promise!
c, that's so true what you said about youth and endings, just so true - you're so bright it's scary!
antonio, ha ha ha!! once again you made me piss myself laughing! you're another one who's so bright it's scary.
actually, ALL of the people on here are so bright it's scary - seriously scary stuff!
creativemassacre, i've been thinking of you lovely girl!
rigby, well that's my name, non? actually, my oldest little nephew, he calls me 'auntie nicki' and it breaks my heart, i just loved it when he was so little and he'd just call me 'nicki', he used to call for me and be so obsessed with me. but now i've been replaced in his affections! it's his cousin lucy, or 'rucy' as he calls her. when i feel shit about the world do you know what i think about and it makes me so happy? my two little nephews (and now my little niece). they are just so loved and so amazing and so funny and i just think whatever there is that's shit in the world, they make up for it!
p.s. Maybe Karl Kraus should have been in my favorite philosophers list. Is he a philosopher, though? A poet? A journalist? He may be god.
A Karl Kraus Day could be spectacular. I don't know if I'm up to it. I'm afraid to even speak the name of Karl.
Dennis, I'm glad you've moved Billy MacKenzie day to the top of your to-do list. I can't wait.
I bought the new reissue of 'Outernational' a few days ago.
My favorite solo album by Billy is 'Transmission Impossible', which includes a cover of 'Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth'.
will i get a p.s.? the weekend has been a wilderness of dejection and despair - if i don't get one today it'll be a case of 'i may be some time ...'
PS i am SO joking dennis, you know that i am!!!
PPS please let me get a p.s. please let me get a p.s. please let me get a p.s. ...
does my sense of humour translate? i think sometimes it doesn't - is it an english thing?
or maybe just a 'not funny' thing ...
get on with some fucking work atheist and stop procrastinating!!!
the others are all working - get on with your fucking work!! you're the only one posting!! get on with some work, woman!
Atheist, you're not alone...
My name is Jeff, and I'm also a Dennis Cooper p.s. addict.
jeff, i knew it! is there like a (non-denominational) 10-step programme?
or is it 12-step?
first step: accept that I am a DC-obsessed freak
second step: attempt to get on with some work in the 'real world'
third step: come back on here hoping that someone else has posted
fourth step: yay! they've posted. respond
fifth step: apologise for taking up so much time on site
sixth step: check my work emails. attempt to start writing
seventh step: make coffee, wish still smoked
eigth step: come back on here, post about not being able to work and about being a DC-obsessed freak
ninth step: wait for someone else to post. respond
ninth step: think about how amazing it would be to still be smoking, you could go outside on the front step and everything
tenth step: check work emails, reply to student, attempt to write
eleventh step: come back on here, post whatever
twelfth step: devise 12 step programme as something to do
But only read Vathek in the original French, eh, David E?
Everret is fairly ubiquitous here in soho. we share the same dry cleaner. I feel for them, especially after he's been on one of his fisting holidays to Berlin.
larkspur, ha ha ha! really? ha ha ha!
larkspur, i just keep on cracking up! ha ha ha!!!
my pleasure atheist, daughter of shelley!
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