p.s. Any response lists would be most welcome, needless to say. You don't have to come up with 30. I just ran out of steam at that point. Well, I got a bit more sleep last night, though not enough to sparkle, I fear. And with that said ... ** Aaron, I knew HC Day would rouse you out the woodwork. How are you? ** Joe mills, Close. For me, second and third 'good,' first 'bad,' and all the Dennis Cooper ones naturally. How nice to see you talk about Barry Graham. What a totally splendid writer and person he is. Boy, talk about another very undervalued writer. What's wrong with people? That reading I did with him in Scotland was great, and I met Irvine Welsh for the first time at the reading, which was cool. So you and jax know/knew him? Barry's, great. People should definitely read his books. For sure. Hey, Barry. ** Tigersare, I know, I was thinking yesterday the blog was magically transformed into a real blog for a day. ** Nikolas, Gotta say I'm kind of with you on the ideal HC dream date. I don't have the proper Edward Furlong Japanese album, but I have the cash-in second Japanese one where he reads 'poems my grandfather loved.' It's totally hilarious -- the most bored, embarrassed monotone you can imagine. Unfortunately, the CD is in LA, but I'll happily burn it for you next trip. ** Statictick, Fake gore? What?! You wuss. ** David ehrenstein, 'Goodbye Again,' that's it. Yeah, I was shocked to learn that Berry Berenson was one of the 9/11 planes. I talked to her once at a party. She was incredibly nice. Did you know her? Or him for that matter? ** Tosh, Aw, gosh, thanks. You're looking pretty spiffy yourself. Yeah, it's really not the health thing. There's nothing really new and wrong going on. I don't feel really much different from when I was in my 20s, apart from a bit more mellow. But death's slow zoom ... ugh. But the hardest thing, I think, is having really old parents who won't live much longer. That's the big shock for me these days. ** David c., What's your conference paper on, if you don't mind my asking? My cold is pretty kaput, I think. Unless my insomnia is hiding it from me. ** Atheist, Thanks again for the wonderful yesterday. Getting older is okay, apart from the reason I mentioned above. It's just a matter of holding on to who you've always been and maintaining excitement about the future. With that, being older isn't bad at all. I mean I'm really not much different at all than I was however many years ago. It's just that my friends are mostly twenty plus years younger than me, which I guess is weird, though it doesn't feel weird. Anyway, your dad sounds lovely. And last, I don't suppose you're going to clue me/us in on why you think you and and david c are a couple of idiots? ** Gregoryedwin, What do you do for your anxiety? Any tips? I tend to just be anxious and wait for a good night's sleep. A beer helps sometimes. Taking a walk. Playing videogames helps sometimes. Jumping around to a New Pornographers album. But I've never found a real anxiety-reducing holistic thing that's helped at all, for instance. You? Well, Friday's almost here, so Friday night you'll be back in great shape, yes? ** Brian curtin, Oh, sure I can. Did you write to me? I've been slow on the email checking front. I'll go look. But yes, I will, thank you a ton. I'm seeing Gisele Vienne tomorrow, so she can give me the relevant materials. ** Ignacio, God, I miss raves. I mean really good trippy raves like the one you described. A phenomenon like rave just couldn't happen in the current world. Good times, those were. ** Paul curran, So true. The astonishing thing (for me) about this place is how it doesn't matter at all how old you are or what your sexual preference is or your gender. It's practically a rave in here, come to think of it. But without as many drugs. ** Akechikogorou, Good, a voice of reason on the Merkel thing. Maybe it's all relative to Bush. I mean I've caught myself going, 'Oh, Chirac's not so bad,' before I had a chance to think about what I was saying. But, you know, when you're a US citizen, and you're used to government shows of complete disinterest in its citizen's opinions and intelligence, seeing Chirac's government kind of back down in the face last year's student uprising starts to seem like a succesful revolution. For a minute, at least. Fucked up. ** Katsim, I hadn't heard of that UK law before you mentioned it, but that is just infuriating, I must say. You can chalk it up to a lot of things, but one of them is a terror of sex itself. I mean governments hate sex anyway because when people are fucking they don't care about or need anything to do with the society that the government wants so badly to control. But that law, if it's enforced, is dangerous, obviously. And absolutely stupid. I mean Japan is okay with really extreme fantasy in porn, and lets just about anything appear in obviously faked contexts, and yet Japan had the lowest sex crime rate of any democratic country in the world the last time I checked. And it really is just a hop, skip, and a jump to banning literature and horror fims and music if some 'respectable' fanatic starts making a lot of noise about some book or film or CD. I'm just ranting, but that is just ridiculous and ugly news. I can only imagine your pre-trip panic. I get little versions even when I'm flying back to my hometown. But, yeah, when you're actually on the plane, it'll go, I bet. In the meantime, write and paint and make music as much as you can, yeah? ** Cautivos, Okay, thanks for warning me off David Mitchell. I'll be more cautious. Bjork in the Texas Chainsaw prequel? Really? ** Jax, Well, obviously we're on the same page about that new law. I'm kind of shocked by it, though. Maybe because in the US, as much as people are somewhat hysterical about porn and predators on the internet and all that, there's too many wars and other crap going on for Bush's gang to take the time to chase down the 'immoral.' But it's almost election time in the UK, right? Makes all the difference, I guess. Anyway ... ** Land of the bat, Great idea. Actually, that's going to be the theme of the next Self-Portrait Day, which I'm going to announce tomorrow, I think. That'll be a fun one. ** Michael Karo, Blame my sleeplessness. My bad. ** Samuelkidd, Yury was loading me with zinc, which may be why I'm better on the cold front, though it might also be why my body won't sleep. ** Bernard Welt, I second your 'Pretty Poison' tip. What is Tuesday Weld's story anyway? David e., you must know. She was so great, but did so little work, and then stopped so early, as far as I can tell. Is she still alive? Anyway, hey, Bernard. ** Lux, Well, howdy! Uh, the porn thing. Sure, you can have in if it happens. Absolutely. A viciously strobing Noe movie, sounds like heaven on earth. What do I make of Gus van Sant. Oh, that's too long a story, a mixture of the personal and the non-. As a filmmaker, he's pretty valuable, for all his ups and downs. I'm supportive in theory of his recent films, though I don't really like them very much. Early stuff, terrific. Blah blah. I need to see 'Requiem for a Dream' again because too many people I respect hold it in high regard, but I found it irksome. I like Richard Linklater, sure. Hard not to like his stuff, mostly. Fun, nothing genius that I've seen, but very enjoyable. I'm dying to see 'A Scanner Darkly,' which doesn't open here for two months yet. Jackass 2, I'm with you. Can't wait. I did PCP, and it is just as awful as people say. Ugly high, no good. ** Dynomoose, Good to see you. 'pussified Darth Vader:' so fucking true. ** Hedi, Hi, man. Where've you been? How are you? What's new? ** C., He'd be nothing without that lazy eye. Certainly nothing to unwrap. ** Rigby101, Hey, there. You're another one who's been on a little hiatus. Which is fine, of course. What have you been up to? How's your writing going? ** Math tinder, I would literally kill for you to curate a Day here on 'research chemicals.' Please, please do. I promise the person I literally kill will be an expendable one. That would be just beyond fantastic of you. 2ci ... mm, I might have to come out of my no more drugs phase for that. That sounds just a little too delicious. Anyway, more more. ** Lost child, You know, I only realized yesterday that Mischa looks a little like Yury. But like me? Hm. Nice of you to say. Mischa's sweet, and he's on quite an adventure, as you'll see. ** Jeff, Just wanted to say hi. ** I'm running late today. Probably you US people won't see this until you wake up. Well, any lists of fave gay songs, bring 'em on, and feel free to be as idiocyncratic in your definition of 'gay song' as I am, obviously. See you.

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shit, Dennis. that is some kind of list. at the moment you've only posted through #11 and i don't know the official title, but i can't wait to make a response list...
i will happily write a thing about research chemicals. no drug phase... can you bring me up to date? anyway, 2ci is quite intense... if you like a fair amount of acid, you'll like it.
xo, math+
thank you dennis!! re: me and david c, it's just too silly to mention, really nothing you've missed out on i promise!
PS hi joe mills, thank you so, so much, that's incredibly sweet i'm all chuffed now!
hi jeff, i didn't get to see them i'd have absolutely love to but i can totally understand and respect your deletions cos i'm exactly the same myself
hi dynomoose, yeah yeah i know but then ewan mcgregor was just as culpable ('i hate it when he does that' - spew) and does that mean i can't fancy him in 'trainspotting'?
hi katsim, i am indeed a UK-er - there's loads of us here, isn't that ace!
and here's another cryptic comment, this time for joe mills - ohmygod what have i done?????? aaarghhh!!!!!
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joe mills if you're reading this can you delete it and not read it??? thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
awesome list Dennis, I think I know most of those but I'ma gonna d/l the rest there. You got a couple I'd put in my own list- Ostia by Coil and Soft cell's Sex Dwarf. 'kay I'm gonna give this a shot, easy top ten-
1. Coil- 'Tainted Love'
2. Jeanne Moreau singing 'Each Man Kills the Thing he Loves' in Querelle
3. Matmos- 'Semen Song (for James Bidgood)'
4. The Smiths- 'Sweet and Tender Hooligan'
5. Leonard Cohen- 'Stranger Song'
6. Scott Walker- 'Farmer in the City'
7. Eminem- 'Stan'
8. Loose Joints- 'Is It All Over My Face (Larry Levan mix)'
9. Arthur Russell- 'That's Us/Wild Combination'
10. Antony & the Johnsons- 'I Fell in Love with a Dead Boy'
Well, that got easier as they started flooding forth, I think I could do another 20 or so without a problem, I might come back to this. These are all songs I love that seem explicitly to be talking about gay desire, I guess. I'd like to think about this harder and come up with tracks which are maybe more gay by personal interpretation, but then not being (entirely) gay means this'd be a little elusive I imagine. Having said that, there's fewer hetero tracks which affect me like these songs above and the others I'm thinking of, the same goes for gay film, art, literature- this is why I always align my heart with these things more I think, I guess i don't have much emotional affiliation with the straight world beyond actual real-life relationships.
Hey atheist, long shot here, but if you get a little crazy again and decide to email any of yr writing, please throw it my way- I'd genuinely, hand on heart, love to read it. And I promise I wouldn't ever talk to you about it if that's what you want..but if you change yr mind then you know there's someone out there who can. :-)
my email- ishahn666@hotmail.com
x
god, what an unbreakable list. those are a lot of my all-time favorite songs.
2HB by Roxy Music, The Boys In the Band by The Libertines, Lonely Planet Boy by New York Dolls, 20th Century Boy by T Rex, the rest [slightly less than 30].
Dennis wow, it's rare to find another Jobriath fan.
xo, math+
aaarghhh!! this is really getting scary now. but part of me really wants to - it's like uma thurman in 'dangerous liaisons'. but i'm actually kind of laughing at myself now, i really need to not take myself so seriously! well, what about if you show me mine and i show you yours??? (two indiscretions in one day - that's a record for me!!!)
frankie goes to hollywood, "relax"
right said fred, "too sexy"
bananarama, "venus" (anyone else ever make this over into "penis" and sing it that way?!)
weather girls, "it's raining men"
ugh, those are all too obvious gay dance anthems...
duran and duran, "union of the snake"
judas priest, "hell bent for leather"
queen, "the show must go on"
elton john, "the bitch is back"
king missile, "detachable penis"
I can't help noticing this list is a little low on show tunes.
It's great homework for me. Wish you could market it. (I still have a couple of cassettes you made a million years ago--the first time I ever heard Soft Cell and Wire, I think.)
Also makes me think how I can't think of any straight songs I especially like, maybe because the gay songs are usually about something other than - ugh - love.
One very gay song: "Frances and Her Friends," by the nightclub singer Frances Faye, featuring the great punchline: "Georgie rhymes with orgy."
By the way, Tuesday Weld was married to both Dudley Moore and Pinchas Zuckerman, which really kind of stretches the age-old concept of stunningly beautiful women unaccountably fucking ugly men to new limits. I'm not really much for projecting myths on to celebrities, but she really does seem (with Piper Laurie) like the classic case of the starlet who was too smart and interesting to have a real career in Hollywood. No one who has seen her in Sex Kittens Go to College can remain unchanged by the experience.
Today's comment is dedicated with affection to Kevin Killian--I think he knows why.
Tuesday Weld id (quel surprise) an exceedingly complex person. She's the only actress I know of who deliberately sought a cult career. Warren Beatty wanted her for Bonnie in Bonnie and Clyde -- but she was pregnant and turned it down.
Actually she'd been turning Warren down for years. When she was playing "Thalia Meninger" on Dobie Gillis, he was "Milton Armitage" -- the rich boy in school. She has been quite adamant about the fact that Warren never got to first base with her EVER (though lord knows he tried.) Her last credit was for Chelsea Walls -- a precious little film about the hotel that Ethan Hawke made.
The greatest gay sonng writers are Sondheim, John LaTouche and Lorenz Hart
Here's a fave of mine that"Touche" (who was a pal of Frank O'Hara's) wrote for Banjo Eyes -- a musical version of "Three Men on a Horse" starring Eddie Cantor. Vernon Duke wrote the music.
"Rent overdue
My sister has measles
Hole in my shoe
My belt’s drawn tight
My income is nil
My in-laws are weasels
My present is dark
My future’s a fright
But as long as you are there
What in the world do I care?
Though hope is low,
I’m aglow when you smile at me
Life is simple as A B C
Not a thought in my head
Not a care in the world
Though skies are grey
I’m as gay as a Disney cow
Not a wrinkle upon my brow
Not a cent in the red
Not a care in the world
I view the scene
Like that old queen of Russia
As Kate the Great
Used to say long sgo
“Nichevo!”
And so if I move
In a groove with a giddy trot
I’m a trottin’ because I’ve got
Not a bean in my pot
Not a care in the world
Though I can’t jive
I revive when I see your face
Not a limp in my merry pace
Not a crimp in my style
Not a care in the world
Though I’m a wreck
I can peck if you take a chance
Not a shine on my blue serge pants
Not a crack in my smile
Not a care in the world
Why should I fret
When I bet on a sure thing?
Like Nick the Greek
Used to say ev’ry day
“Yip-i-ay!”
And so if I’m struttin’
With nuttin’ ahead in store
There’s a reason I said before
I’ll repeat it once more
Not a care in the world!"
atheist - I love this. I feel like a character in Kafka (or Woody Allen's Shadow's and Fog) who doesn't know what the hell what is going on - only that it involves him in some way.
I'm assuming from jheorgge's comment that he seen the comment you deleted (I didn't) and you suggested sending me some of your fiction if I sent some of mine?
Anyway yes as jheo says - you show you yours I'll show you mine!
I've already got 2 bits on my blog but there's another thing I did have on there that that I took off because I thought (1) it's too gross - a serial killing cannibal necrophiliac with a penchent for Mormons and (2) I panicked when I read about this Mormon who was killing Mormon haters...
So I'll show you that. Only other person (I know of) who'se read it is Jax and he said what I think - it starts great and fast but maybe slows a bit half way through.
However I am seriously thinking of writing a film script based on it!
If you do email me anything of course I say nothing to nobody and even honestly delete if that's what you want...
No pressure - but the offer is there from 2 people anyway...
Christ - writers are all fucking crazy!
my email is
josephamills@hotmail.com
Larry Hart write the greatest song of all time, "My Funny Valentine." But as gay songs go here's a fave from The Boys From Syracuse.
"There was an old zany who lived in a tub;
He had so many fleabites
He didn't know where to rub.
He kept looking for an honest man
Said "I'm gonna find him if I can"
If i could meet Diogenes today,
This is what i'd say:
Rub-a-dub-dub
Oh, Diogenes!
Find a man who's honest!
Oh, Diogenes!
Wrap him up for me
Oh, Diogenes!
Find a man who's stolid-solid
Hook that fish if he's in the sea
Hunt him! Trail him!
Catch him! Nail him!
If he is free
Have you got your stick?
Have you got your lantern?
Can you do the trick
And produce him, please!
Catch that fellow!
Ring that bell,
Oh,
Oh!
Oh, Diogenes!"
joe mills, check your hotmail and all will be revealed!!
and yes please please do send me some stuff i would absolutely love that!!
Here's five, too soon to say if they're my top 5:
1 "Blue Boy," Orange Juice
2 "Prince Charming," Adam & the Ants
3 "Across 110th Street," Bobby Womack
4 "Times Square Go-Go Boy," For Against
5 "Are You a Boy or a Girl?," Imperial Drag
As for Sondheim, after all these years and all that music in his last show Bouncehe finally got around to writing a gay love song "Where Have You Been All My Life?" It's alone worth getting the original cast CD for. Sondheim was mentored by Oscar Hammerstein, but underneath all that romantic sincerity lurks a Larry Hart. In terms of pure gayness nothing beats his cult flop (9 performances) Anyone Can Whistle, which starred Angela Lansbury, Lee Remick and harry Guardino. It ad it's exceedingly brief fun back in 1964-- the same season that saw Funny Girl and Hello Dolly!
Back in the early 90's a concert performance was stage as a benefit fo the Gay Men's Health Crisis, with Madeline Kahn, Bernadette Peters and Scott Bakula.
Here's the big opening number -- one I've sung in the shower countless times. As I'm sure you can very plainly see it's a tribute to the great Kay Thompson.
"MAYORESS CORA HOOVER HOOPER:
Everyone hates me-yes, yes-
Being the Mayoress, yes.
All of the peasants
Throw rocks in my presence,
Which causes me nervous distress, yes.
OOOH, OOOOOOOOOH, OOOH, OOH, OOOOOOOOOH.
Me and my town, battered about,
Everyone in it would like to get out.
But me and my town,
We just wanna be loved!
Stores are for rent, theatres are dark,
Grass on the sidewalks, but not in the park,
Me and my town,
We just wanna be loved!
The people are starving,
So they sleep the day through.
My poor little people,
What can they do?
TOWNSPEOPLE:
Boo!
CORA:
Who asked you?
Come on the train, come on the bus,
Somebody please buy a ticket to us.
Hurry on down-
We need a little renown.
Love me,
Love my
Town!
OOOHHHH OOOOOHHHHH OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!
BOYS:
Hi there, Cora. What's new?
CORA:
The bank went bust and I'm feeling blue.
BOYS:
And who took over the bankruptcy?
CORA:
Me, boys, me!
BOYS:
Si, si!
CORA:
Me, boys, me!
BOYS:
Tell us, Cora, how you are.
CORA:
I just got back from the reservoir.
BOYS:
And what's the state of the water supply?
CORA:
Dry, boys, dry!
BOYS:
My, my!
CORA:
Dry, boys, dry!
BOYS:
Ay, ay!
CORA:
A lady has responsibilities...
BOYS:
Responsibilities...
CORA:
And civic pride!
BOYS:
Civic pride!
CORA:
Well, I look around and what do I see? I see no crops.
BOYS:
No crops.
CORA:
I see no business.
BOYS:
No business
CORA:
To the North, to the South,
Only hoof-and-mouth!
BOYS:
To the East, to the West,
No community chest
CORA:
I see a terrible depression all over the town-
BOYS:
Oh, a terrible depression,
Yes, a terrible depression.
CORA:
What a terrible depression
And I'm so depressed
I can hardly talk on the phone.
I feel all alone.
CORA AND BOYS:
But a lady has responsibilities-
BOYS:
Responsibilities-
CORA:
To all my poor! Starving! Cold! Miserable!
Dirty! Dreary! Depressing! Peasants!
ALL:
Peasants! Ick!
CORA:
A lady has responsibilities-
BOYS:
Responsibilities-
CORA:
To try to be
Popular with the populace.
BOYS:
She's unpopular with the populace!
ALL:
Unpopular with the populace,
Unpopular with the populace,
Unpopular with the populace...
CORA:
Everyone here hates me at length,
Probably lynch me if they had the strength.
But me and my town,
Me and my town,
We just wanna be loved!
BOYS:
We just want to be loved!
We just want to be loved!
CORA:
Just loved!
BOYS:
A friendship is lovely
And a courtship sublime,
But give her a township-
CORA:
Township!
Every time!
ALL:
What'll we do, me and my town?
Gotta do something or we're gonna drown!
Give me my coat,
Give me my crown,
Gimme, gimme your vote
And hurry on down!
CORA:
Show how much you think
BOYS:
Yeah!
CORA:
Of me!
ALL:
Love me,
Love my
Town!"
Late again, per usual. Joe Mills, I just checked out your blog and was really stunned by the Anthony Perkins album cover. But won't rehash the discussion that's already gone before here.
Just... wow.
Atheist, you've got a lot of us all dying to read some of your fiction. Are you gonna give it up, or not? If your stuff on this blog is any indication, I'm sure it's got to be good.
Let's see... what do you think Antonio's up to now? His first week of school's almost over.
Last but no least there's Rufus
"Men reading fashion magazines
Oh what a world
It seems we live in
Straight man
Oh what a world
We live in
Why am I always on a plane or a fast train
Oh what a world my parents gave me
Always
Travelin' but not in love
Still I think I'm doin' fine
Wouldn't it be a lovely headline
Life is
Beautiful on a New York Times
Men reading fashion magazines
Oh what a world
It seems we live in
Straight man
Oh what a world
We live in
Why am I always on a plane or a fast train
Oh what a world my parents gave me
Always
Travelin' but not in love
Still I think I'm doin' fine
Wouldn't it be a lovely headline
Life is
Beautiful on a New York Times
Oh what a world
We live in
Why am I always on a plane or a fast train
Oh what a world my parents gave me
Always
Travelin' but not in love
Still I think I'm doin' fine
Wouldn't it be a lovely headline
Life is
Beautiful"
And then he wrote. . .
"Thought that maybe we'd fall in love over the phone
Thought that maybe I'd really love being alone
Everybody but Heaven knows how I was wrong
Oh Lord, what have I done to myself?
What have I done to myself?
In this vicious world
Such a vicious world
There isn't anything you can do
In this vicious world
Soaking on the ice, makin' eyes all by myself
Didn't realize you were so top of the shelf
Just you want and see when you turn, turn 23
Oh Lord, what have I done to myself?
What have I done to myself?
In this vicious world
Such a vicious world
There isn't anything you can do
In this vicious world
Such a vicious world
There isn't anything you can do
In this vicious world
There isn't anything you can do
In this vicious world."
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hi mizu, i know i'm just being a dirty tease!! but if i did send it you would very rapidly understand why i haven't shown it to anyone - it is 'artistically-challenged' to say the least (on par with a toddler's painting - to be fair i am at toddler stage as i've never really written anything 'creative' before in my life). sorry for being so crap - i'll shut up about it now!!
And of course there's Moz!
"Punctured bicycle
On a hillside desolate
Could nature make a man of me yet?
When in this charming car
This charming man
Why ponder life's complexities
When the leather runs smooth
On the passenger seat?
I would go out tonight
But I haven't got a stitch to wear
This man said it's crucial
That someone so handsome should care
Ah ! I'm just a country boy
Who never knew his place
He said return the ring
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things
I would go out tonight
But I haven't got a stitch to wear
This man said it's crucial
That someone so handsome should care
La, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man ...
La, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man ...
Ah! I'm just a country boy
Who never knew his place
He said return the ring
He knows so much about these things"
And who could forget this Rado/Ragni classic from Hair ?
"White boys are so pretty
Skin as smooth as milk
White boys are so pretty
Hair like Chinese silk
White boys give me goose bumps
White boys give me chills
When they touch my shoulder
That's the touch that kills
Well, my momma calls 'em lilies
I call 'em Piccadillies
My daddy warns me stay away
I say come on out and play
White boys are so groovy
White boys are so tough
Every time that they're near me
I just can't get enough
White boys are so pretty
White boys are so sweet
White boys drive me crazy
Drive me indiscreet
White boys are so sexy
Legs so long and lean
Love those sprayed-on trousers
Love the love machine
My brother calls 'em rubble
That's my kind of trouble
My daddy warns me "no no no"
But I say "White boys go go go"
White boys are so lovely
Beautiful as girls
I love to run my fingers
And toes through all their curls
Give me a tall
A lean
A sexy
A sweet
A pretty
A juicy
White boy
Black boys!
White boys!
Black boys!
White boys!
Mixed media!"
1. Vainica Doble: El rey de la casa
2. Los Jolly's: Fernando y Felipe
3. Cánovas, Rodrigo, Adolfo y Guzmán: Maria y Amaranta
4. Gelu: Déjenme en paz
5. Carlos Berlanga: Politicamente incorrecto
6. Caterina Caselli: Nessuno me puo giudicare
7. Renato Zero: Onda gay
8. Polnareff: Je suis un homme
9. Paraiso: Para ti
10.Raphael: Yo no tengo a nadie
11.Umberto Bindi: Un uomo che ti ama
12.Astrud: Somos el uno para el otro
13.Bola de Nieve: ¡Ay, amor!
14. Frank Dominguez: Tu me acostumbraste
15.Chavela Vargas: En un mundo raro
16.LET MY PEOPLE COME (Stage musical): I'm a gay
17.Bambino: Soy lo prohibido
18.Antonio Amaya: Colorines
19.Miguel de Molina:Te lo juro yo
20.Heinz: Country boy
21.Lesley Gore: You don't own me
22.Drug addix: Gays in bondage
23.Pete Shelley: Homosapiens
24.Jossie Cotton: Johnny,are you queer?
25.Ramoncin: Marica de terciopelo
26.Kaka de Luxe: La tentación
27.Solera: Una singular debilidad
28.Charles Trenet: Un rien me fait chanter
29.Wayne County: Man enough to be a woman
30.Noel Coward: Let's do it
Math Tinder: tried bromo-dragonfly yet?
This is such a can of worms it's making my head hurt, also I don't have the time to compile a list for you all so I'm limiting my contribution to one entry and one entry only:
The Frogs - 'It's Only Right and Natural'
that is all
Great blog. How many times can I say great blog within a month.
Actually I love 'gay' songs because they are usually more mysterious and passionate than 'straight' songs.
Also I am aware of pretty much aware of all of Dennis' songs - I didn't think of some of them in a gay context. Magazine for instance. I love that band. Seen them at least twice. Howard Devoto - they don't make moody pop stars like they used to!
I always thought Noel Coward love songs were very passionate and romanctic. There is an intensity in his work that I really like.
And I mentioned this before, but I have seen Jobriath and that was a great evening of music/show!
And last but not least, Lewis Furey is so underrated and unknown - why? Thank god for Japan, because that is where I found copies of his first three albums. There should be a Lewis Furey day on this blog!
And with respect to Dennis' thought on aging, he's right on the pulse. We're around the same age - and (at this time) I am not suffering - and basically I feel the same as when I was in my 20's. What's difference is the mental aspect - which is the death issue. Not only for yourself, but also loved ones or people who were friends of your parents, etc. The fear of losing a parent is quite large in my makeup. My Mom is healthy, but the thought lingers in my DNA. And I too have a group of much younger people in my social circle. Fascinating!
And of course there's Cole Porter (he worte "Let's Do it" -- not Noel)
Here's a fave performed most perfectly by Elaine Stritch
"Now, before this modern idea had burst
About the women and children first,
The men had much more charm than they have today.
And if only one of that type survived,
The very moment that he arrived,
I know I'd fall in love in a great big way.
I can't imagine being bad
With any Arrow collar ad,
Nor could I take the slightest joy
In waking up a college boy.
I've no desire to be alone
With Rudy Vallee's megaphone,
So when I'm saying my prayers, I say:
Find me a primitive man,
Built on a primitive plan.
Someone with vigor and vim.
I don't mean a kind that belongs to a club,
But the kind that has a club that belongs to him.
I could be the personal slave
Of someone just out of a cave.
The only man who'll ever win me
Has gotta wake up the gypsy in me,
Find me a primitive man,
Find me a primitive man.
Trouve moi un homme primitif
Trouve moi un garcon naif.
Quelqu'un tout plein de vigeur,
Ces p'tits maquereaux qu'on appelle gigolos ne
Pourraient jamais donner le vrai bonheur.
J'ai besoin d'un bel animal
Pour chauffeur mon chaffage centrale.
Et l'homme qui me veut pour capitane
Devrait reveiler mon sang tzigane,
Trouve moi un homme primitif, vif,
Trouve moi un homme primitif.
(Find me a primitive man,
Find me a forthright young lad,
Someone with vigor to spare,
Those fatuous beaux they call gigolos could never give me happiness.
I must have a gorgeous beast
To heat up my own central heat.
And he who aspires to be my stud
Must reawake my gypsy blood.
Find me a primitive man.)"
As for Noel, here's a little ditty he wrote about Tyrone Power:
"I met him at a party just a couple of years ago,
He was rather over-hearty and ridiculous
But as I'd seen him on the screen he cast a certain spell.
I'd basked in his attraction
For a couple of hours or so.
His manners were a fraction too meticulous,
If he was real or not, I couldn't tell,
But like a silly fool I fell
Mad about the boy,
I know it's stupid
To be mad about the boy.
I'm so ashamed of it
But must admit
The sleepless nights
I've had about the boy.
On the silver screen
He melts my foolish heart
In every single scene.
Although I'm quite aware
That here and there
Are traces of that cared about the boy.
Lord knows I'm not a fool girl,
I really shouldn't care.
Lord knows I'm not a schoolgirl
In the flurry of her first affair.
Will it ever cloy
This odd diversity of misery and joy
I'm feeling quite insane
And young again
And all because
I'm mad about the boy.
It seems a little silly
For a girl of my age and weight
To walk down Piccadilly in a haze of light.
It ought to take her a good deal more
To take a bad girl down.
I should've been exempt for my particular kind of fate
As taught me such contempt for every phase of love
And now I've been and spent my love torn crown
To weep about a painted clown.
Mad about the boy,
It's pretty funny
But I'm mad about the boy.
He has a gay appeal that makes me feel
There's maybe something sad about the boy.
Walking down the street
His eyes look out at me from people that I meet.
I can't believe it's true,
But when I'm blue, in some strange way
I'm mad about the boy.
Mad about the boy
Mad about the boy!"
That UK censorship news is frightening, but hopefully smokescreen for something else just as ridiculous. I saw a doc about Mary Whitehouse and the whole video nasties thing and thought the UK was over that. There was another doc about Bundy on TV the other week, showing that interview he made before he died, blaming the whole thing on violent porn that was apparently not even around when he was younger. The police found this very tame porn in his house when they arrested him.
Dennis, I sent you an Aus music email. Maybe twice. But they're both the same though.
Classic gay songs.
Hanks Williams "Jambalaya"
Good-bye Joe, me gotta go, me oh my oh
Me gotta go pole the pirogue down the bayou
My Yvonne, the sweetest one, me oh my oh
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou
(Chorus)
Jambalaya and a crawfish pie and file' gumbo
'Cause tonight I'm gonna see my ma cher amio
Pick guitar, fill fruit jar and be gay-o
Son of a gun, we’ll have big fun on the bayou
to tosh: actually, yes - i know what you mean too, i really do feel scared of that re: ageing. i mean the thought of my parents dying ... i literally feel as if i'd have to kill myself. but then my boyfriend's parents have both died and i guess life does go on. but yes, i don't fear growing old but i do fear losing the people i love. which really makes me feel for you and your mum, dennis, i've been thinking about your mum all today, i've been kind of sending her good thoughts if you know what i mean. but it sounds as if she's a really lovely mum and she's given birth to this amazing son, so i know that doesn't make it feel any better but i guess for me that's what it's all about. i don't know, i'll shut up. but lots of hugs to you, dennis. lots of love xxx
Nolel plays at the piano and sings "Let's do it". And it's fantastic because Noel and Cole was two old bitches/dandys. The Divine Comedy recreates the deacadence atmosphere in "It's a marvellous party" (Coward vs.Le Hammond Inferno), for example. Another suggestive mixture
what a list! if i wasn't freaked out about my exams i'd love to add to it. but my attention is on one thing only today. friday night i wish. here's how it goes: tomorrow after 9am i pick up my questions. four in total, one for each list. then i have a week to write 4 ten page essays. so after today i'll be out of it until next week.
dennis, anxiety stuff depends. if it is at night i'll try to do yoga or meditate or take valerian root or something just to knock myself out. i go for walks. i go to the gym just to get the energy out. cleaning does that too. sometimes i'll smoke a cigarette (i'm no longer a habitual smoker).
recently i was thinking of doing hypnosis.
today i don't know what i'll do. i woke up with knots in my stomach and had to force myself to eat.
i like the disphoria of john i'm only dancing more than rebel rebel.
it's funny you did this because only yesterday i was thinking of pansy division. anyone remember pansy division?
the only thing that would make these lists cooler is if in any abstract way you would elaborate on each song for a sentance or two. i totally hear something like "cherry area" as capturing that kind of "nothings going to happen" awkwardness of say a queer crush on an aloof straight guy.. is that what you get from it? i'm interested in what qualifies some of these songs as "gay". then again, "here come the warm jets" is the gayest song i can think of for personal association reasons, so i can dig it from that perspective, if you don't want to explain.
that all just sounded really convoluted. i hope it makes since.
i sent a message to the old email adress i had. i'll be in paris with my band on oct 3. maybe we'll hang.
afterwhile crocidile,
bradford
Good luck with the exams, Gregoryedwin. But you'll be fine, you'll do a great job. On the bright side, it's very soon finished.
Haha. Cool blog-day...
Ok...
'The Smell of My Own' - The Hidden Cameras, and about 93% of their output, which I'm totally obssessed with and by right now...
'Sad Pony Guerilla Girl' - Xiu Xiu - has anyone heard their collab with Larsen?
'The Art Teacher' - Rufus Wainwright
'He's A Rebel' - The Crystals (ok, not overtly...but the Scorpio Rising connection will forever inform my reading of that song...)
'Be Aggressive' - Faith No More
Oh, and Perspects, I'm intrigued...what is bromo-dragonfly?
Math Tinder: Yeh, I intend to try 2ci at some point. I've experimented with mescaline and morning glory, and both are fairly intense. Are you familiar with ibogaine at all? Also, in terms of obtaining these articles, it's hilariously easy via www.shroombay.co.uk, which auctions all manner of roots, extracts, leaves, cacti, under the pretense of proffering incenses not for human conscumption, and thus quite legally. Oh, periodically, ayahuasca as ranted and puked about by Burroughs, becomes available, although I've not tried that. That's how we obtained our Peruvian Torch (mescal) cacti.... I recommend researching ibogaine if you're not already familiar....going to the movies... Anyway, your Barney-show-on-drugs account was hilarious and compelling, thanks man,
Nick.xxx
Oh geez, this one's a bit more time-consuming in the thinking department. I don't think I can come up with 30 gay-related songs that I consider to be favorites, but I can make some sort of list. And away we go . . . (bobby pins flying in the air as Witch Hazel takes off on her broom):
1. Fistful of Love - Antony and the Johnsons
2. Smalltown Boy - Bronski Beat
3. I'm the Luckiest Guy on the Lower East Side - Magnetic Fields
4. Poses - Rufus Wainwright
5. 53rd and 3rd - The Ramones
6. I Kissed a Girl - Jill Sobule
7. Jesus to a Child - George Michael
8. Johnny Are You Queer
9. Fabulous Muscles - Xiu Xiu
10. Two Guys - Peaches
11. Childcatcher - Patrick Wolf
12. I Thought You Were my Boyfriend - Magnetic Fields
OK, I'm going to think of more I'm sure; I'm feeling somewhat brain dead right now.
robert
Thanks for the interesting theme (and choices) Dennis. I'm at work, so this is hardly an exhaustive list. In no particular order..
Bronski Beat—Smalltown Boy
Heatmiser—Bastard John
Magnetic Fields—You Used to Be My Boyfriend
Johnny McGovern—Dirty Gay Stuff
Karen Finley—Belgian Waffle
Malcolm McLaren—Madam Butterfly
Noel—Silent Morning
Sylvester—Menergy
Queen—Killer Queen
Roxy Music—Mother of Pearl
Smokey Robinson—Cruisin’
Soft Cell—Seedy Films
Team Dresch—Growing Up in Springfield
Bikini Kill—R.I.P.
Erasure—Drama
The Smiths—Hand in Glove
Heart—Bebe Le Strange
Yeah, whatever happened to pansy Division?
hehe
what an excellent list and so well supported by everyone else.. all i can add is
wild boys - duran duran
i just returned from a ridiculous mess of a holiday but hopefully some of the surreal happenings will juice up my writing as i've been pretty flat lately.
goodluck with the weekend gregoryedwin
rigby101, why was your holiday a ridiculous mess? do tell!
God I've just been reading some of the stuff you guys have written on your blogs - wow, I don't know what to say!
Can I add The Raincoat's cover of Lola? And thanks David--what did happen to Pansy Division? (Or Cypher in the Snow...)
"Gay" songs? That's too hard. Musician= total fag.? Just
one of those things. Dennis,
I have to say the music you have posted is ultra-gay! UK porn law? What? "I'm becoming a hamburger."
Bourgeois politics is sick shit. "Goo to sleeeep!" 2ci, these crazy kids and their fun. I'm straight-edge. "Better living through chemistry." On stress: Andy's punching bags. Me aka "Prince Valium". Plasicity. SEX. Paintings. "Her want big niggers." The Russian "look"? Just
a thought. Getting older, I'm 20 something, but my boy'friends have been much younger. It's almost funny at this point... There was 16 and 17 in there somewhere.
Delicious! Older boys are fun too. I've seen enough to know I'm going extreme vegan. =)
P.S. Twin Peaks finally, interesting. Next spring, I'm going to have another "movie day/week". Been playing around with some Blur bass lines.
Pai e mae de Ney Matogross. A Gilberto Gil composition and interpreted by this ambigous vocalist. The song is a letter to Gil parents. Its an "outing" by author. There are rumours about a special relationship between Gilberto and Caetano Veloso (more provocation than reality).But...
Please,you are very anglos. Europe and other countries exists too.Stop the anglo invasion!. Dennis, for example, is very french and this is fantastic.
OK first off before she changes her mind and forbids me from posting this!
Well I’ve just been privileged to be the first to read the first 60 pages of atheist’s novel.
Bloggers - and Dennis Cooper in particular – this will blow your sox off!
Yes all of you who (like me) have been planning on writing a book with this blog as an influence – she’s beaten you to it!
This novel is The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole for the Cooper Generation.
The main character is a rambling rent boy who’s obsessed with Dennis Cooper via his books and THIS BLOG.
The story is told via MySpace diary entries reflecting on life love and DC:
“Saturday, 5 August 2006, 7: 15 pm
[No Subject]
guess fucking what??
my dads got arthur rimbaud (is that how you spell it) in his books!
im fucking excited cos DCs gone on about him before so he must be shit hot!”
After the hustler gets re-united with his father, the blog and the emails fade and we get his real life.
“i cant sleep so i thought id come on here
how is everybody itd be great to have news?
you know i realized i havent really thought about DC for a bit
maybe its cos ive got my dad to think about now”
Well, the father ain’t quite the Samaritan he seems at first –
and – well that’s enough for now! You’ll just have to buy the book when it come out or beg atheist to read those 60 pages.
I found the main character real and affecting – really affecting towards the end.
So now madam has broke the ice I think she’ll find she becomes addicted to opinions on her writing...
I'd love to read DC's opinion on it - what a compliment!
Atheist, you're very kind re. my blog scrawls. (Ÿes, I wrote that poem... a long, long time ago.) Thanks. I think you're the first one to see them, besides my husband. Actually, I should confess that it's because of your posts here over the past week or two regarding your own novel and the conflict you feel (keep or delete, share or hide) that I screwed up the courage to actually post them there. I thought, "What the hell, why not?"
They just went up yesterday and today. I feel very strange that they're out there and exposed, but not so much so that I want to wipe them out. I hadn't written in several years, so they seem really... I don't know. Not as bad as I'd feared, but not as good as I'd like. Not subtle enough for me. Certainly not on par with the writers here. I think the work of the people contributing to this blog is incredibly good.
(That said, I'll gladly take any and all opinions and constructive criticisms, if anyone else has suggestions on them!)
Ooh, and damnit, now that Joe has spilled a little of your secret, now you have to end the suspense for the rest of us! If he thinks it's good, it's got to be worthwhile, Atheist.
atheist - let's just say it involved extended family and their meathead friends in a camping site miles from anywhere.. i was trapped in a lynch film!
and i would love to read your 60 pages.. please please
[that_taht at yahoo dot com]
and can i add donna summers - 'i feel love' to the mix.. probably the best pop electronic to get your arse wiggling
oh and i forgot to mention i'd seen the name 'Xui Xui' around but never explored them.. now i have and they're terrific! they remind me of a NZ band 'Headless Chickens' (late 80's on flying nun) but i would imagine they're really hard to get
Now - gregoryedwin,if you're still here - all the best for tomorrow. You know you're prepared - it's just the unknown.Soon you'll be flying.
Paul C - I was going to mention that Bundy documentary - wouldn't you know he was being 'interviewed' by a rampant pornography fighter.
Dennis - neither Jax nor I have met Barry Graham - though he and me were in the same room once at some Polygon do yonks ago (I knew him but he didn't know me). As I told Jax, this Buddhist Priest with a beard (see the blog) used to be a wiry wee boxer !
Thanks Mizu re:the Perkins pic - I'm just leaving it on it's such a nice thing to see first thing. Of course it came from Antonio's blog - EVERYBODY (except perhaps epileptics) should visit Antonio's blog...
Go on atheist - you've broken the ice now: rigby, you were one of the bloggers I recommended she send it to - I'm more eager than her now to hear other opinions. Hope anybody who gets it shares their opinions on here (or with me).
Gay songs off the top of my head:
Bowie/Can You Hear Me (Young Americans) "Once we were lovers/Can they understand?"
Soft cell/Say hello Wave Goodbye
Bowie/Queen Bitch
Pet Shop Boys/Being Boring
John Lennon/How Do You Sleep
and
Paul McCartney/Too many People
Such intensity of feeling girls!
What a bitter divorce
Bronski Beat/Smalltown Boy
Communards/You Are My World (those wonderful strings at the front)
Martha and the V's/Heatwave (Scorpio Rising)
Noel Coward/Mad About The Boy - so it wasn't for James Cagney then!
So Many men so Little Time - 12" remix - did I dance that one to death! I can see the strobes, smell the dry ice and taste the poppers...
Michael Jackson/Muscles
Liza Minelli/Results album
Judy/Somewhere over the Rainbow
Mamas and Papas/Make Your Own Kind of Music
KD Lang/Ingenue album
And the ultimate sensitive cruising ballad...
Wayne County/If You Don't Want To Fuck Me Fuck Off!
Congrats on the book Atheist! When do we all get to read it?
Speaking of reading and writing--Dennis, I'm e-mailing you something.
yazoo - only you
if this was a pack of cards i'd be the joker (53)
__david e: i realize you probably transcribed the lyrics to This Charming Man by The Smiths as you personally hear them. but the actual lyric [which i think is a lot better personally] is
This man said it's GRUESOME
That someone so handsome should care
not 'it's crucial'. that rhyme on gruesome/crucial is literally one of my favorite moments in all of pop music. when i first heard it, it absolutely blew me away. i've got a white t-shirt with RETURN THE RING handwritten on the front and IT'S GRUESOME on the back.
it's also 'will nature make a man of me yet', but that's getting fussy...
xox!, math+
__my favorite gay lyrics of all time:
How can you stay with a fat girl who'll say ohhhhhh
Would you like to marry me
And if you like you can buy the ring
She doesn't care about anything
Would you like to marry me
And if you like you can buy the ring
I don't dream about anyone
Except myself.
and
I stole and I lied and why
Because you asked me to
But now you make me feel so ashamed
Because I've only got two hands.
William, It Was Really Nothing and What Difference Does It Make by The Smiths.
^^oh shit double shit!! gotta stop reading this blog while i'm stoned, christ.
__david e: obviously i meant, _the rhyme on gruesome/handsome_ is one of my favorite moments in all of pop music.
what poems or other songs rhyme gruesome and handsome? This Charming Man is the only place i've heard that rhyme. kills me every fucking time.
luv, math+
I can't think of many of the top of my head, but 'Domino Dancing' by Pet Shop Boys Springs to mind, as does 'The Boy With The Thorn In His Side' by the Smiths.
OH, I know, another song to add to my list has to be "New York City Boys" by Pet Shop Boys. How could I not think of that one?! Honestly though, I prefer the song "Vampires" from the Nightlife album over the song "New York City Boys," but "New York City Boys" is definitely a gayer song. Ha! ha!
__nikolas: i've read all about ibogaine but i've never personally tried it. never bothered to brew ayahuasca either, since for a period i had more 5-MeO-DMT than any sane person could possibly want. ayahuasca contains 'natural'/it's-in-the-plants DMT. 5-MeO-DMT is a much more intense synthetic version. i lost my shit on it several times and left a huge amount of it [my 'last of it'] inside a tiny [unplugged] refrigerator, in the stairs, in an apartment building on Bleecker St in Greenwhich Village. i didn't really mean to do that, but obviously hanging onto the stuff wasn't on my mind.
yeah, the plant-type stuff is easy to come by- mushroom spores, ayahuasca ingredients, san pedro cactus, morning glory seeds etc. it's not psychedelic, but i'm a huge fan of kratom as far as those shamanic plants go.
luv, math+
I can't come up with a list of gay songs that wouldn't echo everything already mentioned (minus the show tunes and disco, I just can't do that shit). I was trying to figure out a mentionable Costello song (since he frequently blurs the sexuality lines), but there are too many, so, no.
And Dennis, I'm not a wuss. It's just that if I gotta eat gore, it'll have to be vegetarian gore. Gay vegetarian cannibal porn has got to be a first.
perspects: You ARE alive! Dude, we should sit and have a libation or two, and soon, please. If it's easiest, I can get over to Oslo, but if you want a change of scenery, you will have to be the driver. I'm begging you, man. Miss you. Behave.
Later, all
N.
Statictick: I'm around. I'm overwhelmed with deadlines and whatnot. you know where I'm at.
Nikolas: here. It's around. A couple friends are raving about it like it's the new super-acid you can drive a car on and lasts for 24 hours. Others say they barely feel anything. One guy didn't like it but he's a poly-drug abuser and was on like six different things already. He woke up in the parking lot of his apt. building the next day and says it seemed totally normal to him that he should be lying there and didn't understand all the weird looks he was getting. Funny guy. All agree it lasts a LONG time and that's why I haven't partaken. I'll submit a report if/when I do.
__perspects: no; btw to me Bromo-Dragonfly is known as DOB. i guess i'll list all the obscure drugs i've tried when i do 'research chemical day' [which will have a better name by that point].
'favorite gay songs' / 'favorite _____ songs' is a topic i could talk on forever. i have a lot of favorite straight songs as well. maybe i'll do as Bradford suggested and type a couple lines for each of my choices, later on.
for now, lyrics to Sister, I'm a Poet by Morrissey and mp3 [scroll down].
teaser lyrics:
with meths on their breaths
and you with youth on your side
oh long long alone waiting at the light
but not this time
sister, i'm a
Favourate straight records is actually harder - every time I think of something - Prince say, Sign of the Times - I think,well it's about AIDS mostly. Or Get Off/Cream - I think well the guy's almost a transvestite...
How about Broooooce's Born to Run!
Brilliant song. Butch Butch guy!
Oh and Lay Lady Lay - Dylan.
Lots of Dylan - a camp free zone.
my 34 favorite gay songs, list:
1. wire ~ outdoor miner
2. stephen malkmus + jicks ~ old jerry
3. clearlake ~ almost the same
4. electrelane ~ only one thing is needed
5. magnetic fields ~ i'm sorry i love you
6. katie the pest ~ colors
7. yuka honda ~ i dream of you
8/9. lairs ~ drum and the uncomfortable can/otherside of mt. heartattack
10. guided by voices ~ as we go up, we go down
11/12. ween ~ dont get 2 close (2 my fantasy)/the mollusk
13. pavement ~ box elder
14. bowie ~ be my wife
15/16. death in june ~ god's golden sperm/despair
17. kinks ~ i fall asleep
18. grandaddy ~ the warming sun
19. deerhoof ~ top tim rubies
20. air ~ sexy boy
22. legendary pink dots ~ ego tripper
23. waitresses ~ i know what boys like
24. prince - the ballad of dorothy parker
25. autechre ~ foil
26. ramones ~ today your love, tomorrow the world
27. nirvana ~ scentless aprentice/all apologies
28. flaming lips ~ be my head
29. mouse on mars ~ saturday night world cup fieber
30. coil ~ red slur
31/32. they might be giants ~ don't lets start/where your eyes don't go
33/34. akron/family ~ part of corey/afford
Speaking of which, music, three bands above... a few weeks ago I saw the Liars, Ween and the Flaming Lips live with my little brother, it was at the Greek Theatre (in Berkeley) was totally fantastic - all three bands are absolute singular genius - was anyone else here at the show? It was my first time seeing all three bands, and Liars was a total surprise because the Go Team!(whom I thought were the opener) canceled or something, I had been wanting to see Liars for a while but figured I wouldn't get to for some time so it was a real treat. And yes, they were amazing, they just walked out and played this total post-TG-post-crashworship set and nobody knew what to do, the vibe was so pleasingly dark (in -that- way) and definitely as brilliant as all the hype.
Next was Ween, who are one of my top bands ever, so seeing them live in and of itself was mind-blowing. I just stood there a few 'rows' back in the mad crowd next to my brother, with my jaw hanging loose, eyes glazed, dumb expression I'm sure, lightly swaying, twisting, in a dream with each song... every once in a while getting out a few half syllables and even words here or there, it was great, and Gener was beautiful, so soulful. And I felt so stupid it was fantastic.
The Flaming Lips on the other hand were a revelation, before seeing them I was always a fan but their more recent albums had always been way too sad for me. Seeing them live on the other hand, from moment one with the 'hello, everybody' in yellow letters on the off blue screen, the out of nowhere musical buildup, and Wayne coming into the crowd in his bubble, everyone seeming to be working together and a part of something, well it was something totally beyond where I was coming from and was so perfectly what I needed right then. The whole show was wonderful, and I realized there was this other 'real' side to the Lips that just hadn't come across on their records, well I suppose singing 'yoshimi' and 'she don't use jelly' with thousands of people outdoors in the middle of summer doesn't translate to record well - nor should it need to!
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well fuck I said I'd catchup with people here, but there's so much, Trevor Brown (long time admirer of his, though I wish he'd expand a lot),
'the devil, probably' (which i've been trying to get a copy of since i first saw it on your homepage dennis)
?
loved the.... but anyway I don't feel the need to catchup any more - that seems like stuck-in-the-past-mantra, hyphen city
also, dennis are you still at: Dennis Cooper c/o Centre International des Recollets, 150/154 rue du Faubourg St. Martin, 75010 Paris, France?
I have something here I've been meaning to put together and send you for ages
anxiety notes, hmm, wish I had something at the moment to add to the dialogue, all I can say is that the past few nights have been real horrors, nightmares of anxiety for me too, for some reason, I think it's some internal thing I'm working through. I seem to be able to detach to some extant from the overwhelming anxiety if I try, but it's strange. Like you said Dennis, a beer helps (sometimes). For me I can't just shout or whatever so it sucks, no where to go around here out in the city to just go mildly fuck crazy in the middle of the night without running into real problems. I used to just go for a long long walk, but it's too dangerous around here currently. If I lived by myself (or with night-owls) I'd just blast music and do whatever to channel the energy into something else, like drawing or something. I dunno, that all sounds too positive, easy. I think breathing can help, if you can do it. Like say making yourself do one hundred deep breaths can take the edge off a little, distance it a tad. There's this thing I used to do when I was a teenager that worked fantastic, but doesn't seem to work for me anymore, I read about it in Christopher Hyatt's 'undoing yourself with energized mediation and other devices' - I don't know where he got it - but basically it's incredibly simple and does include the breathing thing. What you do is as you inhale a deep breath through your nose you raise your arms up from your sides over your head, stretching to the zenith, you know, till you feel spine stretching a bit, and when your arms are peaking hold them till you finish filling your lungs, then hold it for three or four seconds and then just let everything above your waist go limp, let your arms fall, your torso, just fall loose and hang there, bent over for a moment, but keep your knees fairly straight (not rigid of course) and then raise yourself up and repeat till you feel better. Everyone I taught that too has loved it, so it might be worth a try if you haven't tried it already.
also, Dennis brilliant point re Japan re proposed UK sex/violence ban + statistics... I was going to say the same thing basically after having read about the proposed UK law - and god knows I've got hundred of 'violent' japanese sex videos - but yeah, on boingboing someone pointed out that parliament isn't even in session, and the this bill is just proposed, and so it's not really in its arc yet - so it could just fall flat
speaking of statistics, everyone, you are more likely to shoot yourself in the head then be attacked by terrorists (I learned that while doing some light research while writing an anti-FUD letter to the editor of my local paper the other day)
math: it's actually an analogue of DOB that's supposed to be 'nicer' apparently.
'Human Guinea Pig Day' perhaps?
I'll stop, there's already far too many drug-nerd boards out there for this to devolve into one.
sorry, everyone
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i've been getting into gay underground music of the 70s and early 80s recently, so here's a list of some of those:
Blackberri - It's Okay
(from Blackberri & Friends, 1982)
One of the world's only black gay singer-songwriters, who tackles country & western, funk, reggae, showtunes and soul on his first album. It's Okay is one of the most uplifting songs ever!
Steven Grossman - Dry Dock Dreaming
(from Caravan Tonight, 1974)
The first openly gay performer to make a major label album, this amazing song seems to be about the Docks and Trucks of NY's gay 70s. The album is arranged by Chris Dedrick of the Free Design, who also sing backing vocals.
Everybody Involved - A Gay Song (from Either/Or, 1972)
From a private pressed communal album, where each of the 16 band members got 60 copies each to do with what they wised. You can hear this incredible song at
http://pages.zoom.co.uk/awake/Soul/Either-Or/A%20Gay%20Song.htm
Michael Cohen - The Last Angry Young Man (from What Did You Expect, 1973)
A tortured songwriter who made two albums for Folkways in the 70s, the first openly gay, the second more concerned with his apparent heroin addiction. This is the Dylanesque opening track from his first album. Nobody knows what became of Michael Cohen after his second album in 1976.
Walls To Roses - The Sensitive Little Boy (from Walls To Roses, 1979)
Another group project, 17 gay musicians from around the US banded together to make a record subtitled Songs Of Changing Men, again for the Folkways label. This is the campest song on the record and the most hilarious. Blackberri also sings a couple of great songs too.
anyone interested in finding out more should check out http://www.queermusicheritage.com
there's a lot of not so great stuff there, but a lot of great stuff too!
I can understand that, of course. My flatmate who works & lives in New York for about half of the year used that as an argument once when we disagreed about Merkel: "At least she's better than Bush!" Yeah, sure, but then who's worse than Bush? After Saddam's gone it'll be difficult to find one. And I was impressed by the French students, too. I wish the German students had half as much energy. I wish I had.
As a personal add-on to your list, here are some of my bisexual (or sexually ambiguous) favs:
Bright Eyes, Lover I don't have to love
Broken Social Scene, Lover's spit
Long Fin Killie, Matador (or maybe that one is just gay)
Smog, Chosen One
Blood Brothers, My first kiss at the public execution
Waterboys, Girl called Johnny
Soft Cell, Youth
Cleaners from Venus, Lukewarm Lovesong
The Smiths, Reel around the fountain
oh and speaking of gay songs, i just transcribed my interview with Jamie Stewart of Xiu Xiu, so if you want to read the transcript (article is being written today) then head over to my blog.
Pet Shop Boys gay songs are many and varied.
"Bet She's Not Your Girlfriend"
"Your Funny Uncle"
"It Must Be Obvious"
"A Man Could Get Arrested"
"Rent"
"It's a Sin"
"The Night I Fell in Love"
"Can You Forgive Her?"
Here's my list, which tries to avoid songs that others have already picked:
Walk on the Wild Side - Lou Reed
Flamboyant - PSB (somebody already picked Being Boring, which would be the first choice)
Sexy Boy - Air
Streets of Philadelphia - Bruce Springsteen
Cocksucker Blues - Rolling Stones
Gloria - Patti Smith (well, when I first heard it I assumed she was a Lesbian making an intense statement)
Love for Sale - Cole Porter
Freedom - George Michael
If I Was Your Girlfriend - Prince
Lola - Kinks
Dear God Please Help Me - Morissey
Bird Gerl - Antony
Tower of Learning - Rufus W.
This was an interesting exercise -- I'm surprised at how few really gay songs I could think of -- maybe I'll try to come up with more later.
__perspects, yeah, my mistake, of course DOB is dragonfly and bromo-dragonfly is brominated DOB / 3Cx / etc. i've never tried DOB either. xo.
Dennis, the most effective "natural" solution I've found for anxiety/sleep related problems is a warm bath filled with at least 4 cups of Epsom salts. (Apparently, it's the magnesium contained in Epsom salts that relaxes muscles and reduces stress.) I also add a drop of some essential oil that I find soothing - rosemary is nice. After 15 minutes in the bath, I begin to feel a sense of peace.
As to favorite gay songs, I've had the song No Skin of[f] my Ass on an infinite loop for a month or so. It's by Sakurai Ao of the Japanese band Lab. (ex. Cali≠Gari.) Here are the lyrics as written - all spelling courtesy of Ao.
No Skin of My Ass
He said "KICK IN THE EYE"
What do you want of sad me?
Forget the love + the youth
Each bitter moment lingers on
Night + eyes + might
What evergets you through the night
I'm clearly not myself tonight
Come now!
No skin of my ass!
I'm looking fist + the boys...
No skin of my ass!
If anyone would like to hear a sample of the song, I'll keep this file (5.4 MB) online for a day or so. No Skin of My Ass
Would you believe, I've always thought that were the song "Handsome Devil" a novel, it would be a Dennis Cooper novel. It's one of my favourite Smiths tracks.
I'm not passionate enough on the subject to compile a list. I don't know, most "gay songs" skirt the subject of homosexuality, and I find that sneaky, cowardly, and, at times, downright manipulative. I'm fed up of hearing another song with "homosexual undertones."
I have my qualms with Morrissey nowadays, too, for purposely being ambiguous about his sexuality to garner media attention. I mean, what's the point? Does anyone really care in this day and age? It will become another Tom Cruise-come-out-of-the-closet scenario if he's not careful.
Anyway, "William, It Was Really Nothing," "Pretty Girls Make Graves," "Charming Man," "Hairdresser On Fire," and especially, "Shoplifters Of The World Unite" are great--eh--gay Moz tracks. "Girlfriend In A Coma" wins me over for being so hilariously obvious, too. (I've always thought "Girlfriend In A Coma" was Morrissey taking the piss out of himself and closeted men in general for not taking the plunge and coming out.)
PS: Samuelkidd, The Raincoats' version of "Lola" is fantastic. Better than the original, I think.
Oh, and I like Broken Social Scene, I'm Still Your Fag.
Hi Dennis :),
After snooping around the blog for quite sometime, and after hearing what such a wonderful guy you were from my girlfriend (Katsim), I decided to say hello. After reading for a while, I've become quite a fan of your work, and to comment on the list of songs you have posted, all I can say is you have a pretty good taste in music. :)
Have you seen Bill ones film Is It Really So Strange ? burnt oak?
With fans like these there are no closets for Moz to hide in, if he ever really wanted to.
I am so anxious for my bed time tonight. I have a stack of books next to my bed. A few of them are D.C. books. Dennis Cooper is full of rediculously bad ass fucking tricks and he is a master stylist, and I am sure one day I will without hesitation know him to be the finest writer I've ever read and probably ever will. Don't trust him as far as you can throw him. I've been reading The Sluts. Doing a cover to cover. Maybe to make it to MLT again. Maybe. MLT hurts, but differently than Calhoun. I think it may be one of your finest. Brad is like a dog you feed and it never goes away. The holy ghost so to speak. Like the Blur boys and worse. The good Dr. himself perhaps. Funny I think how long you've been with me Dennis. I'm insane to read some more. Guide will be the next read.
Many thanks
DENNIS:
Oh, I must make a cameo in your porn film then... Aaron thinks "dead body under the bed" would be best for me... hehe. I'm partial to "director of the film within a film" because it's so very meta.
Also, I noticed you mentioned Linklater to someone today on the blog. And that you like him but haven't seen any genius work from him yet. I pretty much agree, except I think he pretty much busted into the genius club a few times during BEFORE SUNSET (I don't know why, but I just think that film is a STUNNER, filled with secrets and texture).
I've recently bought the new DVD collection SIX MORAL TALES by Eric Rohmer. What are your thoughts on his work? I am pretty enamored of what I've seen so far.
Regards,
garrison
I don't know what the soundtrack to this porno film would be, but if you need something noisy and abrasive, give me a holler! I'd love to see a Sypha Nadon song on a porn film soundtrack (I have weird goals).
Wow, 80 posts... I wish I could read them all, but this damn conjectivitis I'm suffering from makes reading stuff difficult (I wanted to work on my "Bret Easton Ellis Day" entry, but my eye problems messed up THAT plan). I'm too brain-fried to list favorite gay songs, but I will say I love Coil's "Anal Staircase". I don't know: Would Whitehouse's "I"m Comin' Up Your Ass" count (or, for that matter, "Ass-Destroyer"?)
David Ehrenstein:
Hah, hah, no, I've not seen that film. I just checked the IMDb; it seems interesting. Hispanic Americans' obsession with Morrissey is kind of interesting.
Just as a point of reference, I'm not a militant gay rights activist who thinks every gay guy has to come out of the closet. I just cringe when I hear Morrissey say in interviews, "I'm gay? Well that's news to me." I mean, come on! Enough is enough, no?
Hi Dennis. :)
Hmmm... gay songs...
Does 'Country Boy' by Die Zwei as covered by the Associates count as a gay song? If so, that's at the top of my list right now.
'I Wish I Had an Evil Twin' by the Magnetic Fields...
'Runes and Men' by Death in June...
Where are Sylvester's 'Might Real' and anything by Divine, guys??? I mean, come on!:)
Btw, the only Arab writer ever to win the Nobel Prize for Literature, Egyptian Naguib Mahfuz, died on Wednesday. His 'Cairo Trilogy' is defo worth reading.
How's 'Jerk' going, Dennis? When does it get recorded? Do you get to be present?
Oh, and 'The Devil Probably' arrived yestreday - I had no idea Film Four screened it, Larkspur. As I said, I;ll happily send my copy on but, US bloggers, not sure your VHS machines are compatible with ours, sorry:(
Anyway...gonna watch it hopefully over the weekend. FINALLY got round to watching 'Battle of Algiers' again. Wow...you get a totally difefrent buzz offa it, these days. That bit where the three girls plant their bombs?? Awesome!
This is a bit out of the blue, but I recommend the writings of Mohamed Choukri to anyone interested in Arabic literature. His book 'Jean Genet in Tangier' made quite an impression on me when I read it years ago. I just learned he died in 2003.
athiest: ewan was great in 'pillow book' wasn't he? i remember watching that with my first ultra serious girlfriend and being kind of jealous the next day and the endless talk between her and her older sister of how gorgeous ewan was, i guess that's really petty, but to mention more of what that recalls all of a sudden would be volumes, i don't know the way the kitchen was so small - anyway most actors do something awful which is probably endearing
also: dennis, re coil interview, it struck me yesterday how similar it was to one peter did in the early 80s - even up to the blue ray vs dvds, was analogous to a comment he had made back then re: cassettes vs vinyl.... why that struck me, i don't know - what was your impression? i mean it's obviously sad, i guess that's a given, but the circular, cyclical thing
jeff, 'Runes and Men' perfect song - 'The Corn Years' was revelation to me years and years ago, I'd get home from school and go into my darkly unlit (?) room and put that cd on and completely go into that world and my white sheets - truly a unique 'gay' world Douglas conjured durring those years, full of actual love and affection, and bodies seem to come through, real kinesthesia happening there - or so it seemed - not to mention the complete desperation
have you ever seen DiJ live? I saw him a few years back and regret not going to see him again when I had the chance, though the show was more happy cheers then the above
did i mention the lack of desperation?
desperation folk... why give one man a genre? why not something more, less
would be more fitting it seems to someone so willfully on his own (again) - favorite song of his i believe....
speaking of which I always wanted to like 'boychild' but i can't... but the on the shoulders part is so perfect
forgive the out of phase parts if you will
hi joe mills, ok i was really drunk last night (dutch courage knowing what you'd be reading!!!) but i still mean it, i really DO want to have your babies!! everyone, joe mills is such an amazingly wonderful guy - i was so terrified and i'd stupidly sent him the first half of what i'd been writing and he didn't just read it straight away but he sent me this really long email really engaging with it and being so incredibly supportive and now i feel really strong and happy etc. etc. So thank you thank you thank you joe mills!!!
you,
Oh yes, I have seen Death in June live, a few years ago here in Denver.
Douglas P. said something funny in a recent interview about how DiJ "slipped under the gaydar" for the most part.
"Desperation folk", I like that.
I think David Tibet said in an interview that apocalyptic folk isn't the genre, but rather refers to the folk playing the music.
Desperate men.
I'll add 'Boychild' by Scott Walker to my list. I didn't think of that earlier.
My listphobia prevents me from contributing - but your list brought back wonderful memories of playing Rent on student radio and dedicating it to the man I was kind of seeing (when he was bored of his boyfriend and had the opportunity and wasn't busy at work) at the time; and of having the time of my life at Popstars (when it was at the Complex) as Blur was played. Sweet memories indeed.
If I had to add one song though it would be Ciccone Youth's Get into the Groove(y) for somehow deliciously linking two parts of my life - the SY/live music in dirty pubs scene AND the poppy gay scene(I wasn't there for the music obviously) at a time when the two seemed very far apart.
I won't tell you about the conference paper - its a flimsy thing of little merit except to gain exposure for my workplace - except to say I discuss two travellers views of Australia in the early 20th century.
And, Atheist and I can't tell you the story of our 'idiocy' - it was a moment of misguided madness and laxity - and if we told you we'd have to cross the Channel, abduct you and hide you in my garden shed (and we'd miss this blog and the promise of a new book one day to do that, so silence must remain).
Oh, and Pansy Division are still around (apparently) see http://www.pansydivision.com/ - my memories of discovering them surround a Sydney Mardi Gras and a cute boy in a kilt...
Hi Atheist
Joe's teaser sounds great - never delete!
bradford, you probably know, but if not let me be a wannabe braniac and say that 'here come the warm jets' was really an association to the photocard of the woman pissing amd the guitar sound on said song.... anyway, golden showers could be good, but maybe sex is boring in a song--- speaking of which i've been listening to that particular eno album a lot this past week or so... so brilliant and satisfying, and 'needles in the camels eye' feels so good - and i like how eno associates rock with sexual freedom, er all that, that seems to have gotten lost on me in my love of rock, and in rock at the moment too
and bradford, i was thinking the same thing re: cursory explanations or notes for dennis' picks, would be fascinating, well delightful really
Oh, and Dennis - have you been to Musée du quai Branly yet? Would be interested in hearing what anyone thinks of it... though it does sound rather like it reflects an ethnographic, "look at all the amusing natives" view of world art. My anniversary visit to paris has been deferred as trains were too expensive - but hope to pop over for a post NZ/pre-Xmas treat.
jeff, hey again (twice in one mill-stone-enium, damn age of satan - has it gotten online?)... thanks, 'desperation folk' was the best genre thing i've thought of all month probably, perhaps it will catch on?
i was thinking of neo-folk, but yeah i like your take with it on apoc. folk.... neo-folk is fitting, in the way the words look.... for ... those guys
poor douglas being banned by the german government and arguably his best record too, 'rose clouds of holocaust' - i guess it should seem ironic, but of course it's not really
what do you think of the new current 93 album? i can't get into it for some reason, i want to like it, but don't yet. wish it had more of tibet on it, his voice is c93 for me, anyway - i mean it's obviously pretty brilliant, the new album, just not for me
haha, Doug's comment is quite amusing, in his own way, he has such a desolate sense of humor... wish he'd rerelase the black whole of love boxset, and do some more stuff like that, there hasn't been a fractal on a dij cover in over a decade, what the fuck, seriously i love those 'remixes'
did you get to meet up with douglas after the show? i wanted to but did not, as a mutual aquaintance that was going to introduce me left early - sigh! i mean back then that would of made my life, not sure why
David E!
oh! great song lirics!
I love love love Sondheim so much...
so sad i lost two tapes of 90min that a friend, the one who introduced me to his music taped for me.
When i have some money money i go and get some..
My Funny Valentine is my gay song top
Sing by Nico
And the charming man
I am just a country boy..
I am i am like this..
Do you like Nature Boy?
There was a boy...
that will be my other gay song
By choosing the songs we say how we perceive Gay
Dennis the song from Sonic Youth about killing it with my fucking dick must be just amazing.
I have also to hear now Rape me by Nirvana
Will add " Where do you sleep last nite" as other gay song.
And death dark sad metal too.
yeah with you Dennis the era of Metal for a dark room and woods good fucks is goldenneeed
is nice to see Brigth Eyes mention too
I am mad about the boy
you,
I didn't meet Douglas after the DiJ show, I'm afraid. I'm way too shy or intimidated or something to approach him in person.
I'd be scared stiff to meet Dennis in person also, but somehow online he's managed to disarm my fear.
I think Douglas went to a bar after the show to have a drink with Boyd Rice and Brian Clark. I met Brian Clark at Boyd's Tiki Bar the one time I went there before it closed down. I introduced myself at the prodding of a friend. There's an interview with Douglas by Brian here, about his pre-DiJ band Crisis.
I love the new Current 93 album but I don't listen to it too often. My favorite recent C93 album is 'How I Devoured Apocalypse Balloon'.
Neo-folk, yeah that's suggestive. My favorite bands near that genre are Der Blutharsch, Novy Svet, and Allerseelen.
Sorry about the belated reply. I know it's only an hour later, but things have been moving so quickly here lately.
p.s. lovin' the 'album cover' you posted on your blog recently.
don't usually post first thing in the morning, but I saw The Devil, Probably late last night before sleeping... wow, what a beautiful and almost unaccountably disquieting experience. I woke up feeling very strange too - like I'd had a very deep sleep without dreams, which is unusual for me. Anyway my god - that metro journey; the partial glimpse of the TV through the window and the unfinished snetence...
The version I saw is the VHS version mentioned by others which is sadly not in widescreen - so I'm hungry to see it at the cinema some day. But it wasn't so hard to get hold of that VHS - they had it for rental at a local (art) video store.
Favorite gay-related pop music (I only have 3 songs that I 've been able to thionk of):
For various reasons - anything off that incredible album by Divine from the mid-80's which I adore though I haven't heard it in it's entirety since the times when a girlfriend used to play it constantly in rotation with Soft Cell's first album and Grace Jones.
I can't remember all the titles so:
1. Divine 'Shoot Your Shot'
2. Soft Cell 'Wave Hello / Say Goodbye'
3. Soft Cell 'Sex Dwarf'
I'm all right. I've been better, but I've also seen worse days as well.
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